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Posted 21 January 2012 - 03:45 PM
i want to make some perch patterns ''rapala style'' but i cant find any transparent yellow paint. so i was thinking about putting on a layer of transparent yellow colored epoxy after foiling, but i dont know what i could use to color the epoxy and if that actually works. if id put non transparent paint in the epoxy would the epoxy loose its tranparency ? i was wondering if you guys maybe have experience with this or any advice.
thanks in advance,
Posted 21 January 2012 - 04:01 PM
I have wondered about this also. Do you think that the ink that you would use to refill an ink jet cartridge woud work?
Posted 21 January 2012 - 04:05 PM
what kind of paint are you using or looking for ? i know createx and auto air both have tranparent yellows. you can also reduce most wicked colors down to make them transparent
Posted 21 January 2012 - 04:33 PM
Jblaze, i have no idea mayb its worth a try
crzyjunyer, at the moment i only have rattle cans, i just started making lures. some colors are transparent the first layer, others arent. (the green version is, the yellow isnt). the problem with these paints is i think that they are water based (water carried). im not sure but i dont think they are suited for mixing with epoxy, and i dont know how to reduce them.
Posted 21 January 2012 - 04:42 PM
Hobby lobby here has transparent yellow. Micheals has createx as well clearanced.
Something I do is thin whatever paint i have on hand. i mean really really thin. You'll need a medicine cup and a paper clip or similar. Dip the clip in the paint and put two or three spots on bottom of cup. Now depending on the paint your thinning agent. Usually four or five large drops and mix with the clip. Test the consistancy back of plate with a brush and dilute till it suits you. Now you have your own transparent color. The trick is to really dilute out the pigment.
Posted 21 January 2012 - 04:49 PM
water based polyurethane (ac moore and alike) mixed with a little water based acrylic paint (drops). I have done this successfully. It works as long as you mix the crap out of it.
Posted 21 January 2012 - 05:11 PM
I recall reading guys using food coloring to do this on model forums.
Posted 21 January 2012 - 05:27 PM
i thought of that too, mayb it isnt as rediculous as i thought it was. and i guess its water based too.
Posted 21 January 2012 - 05:37 PM
i have used acrylic paint mixed with epoxy with no problem. you don't need much! just a tiny bit. mix epoxy first and then add color and mix again. remember you can always add paint, you can't take it out.
Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:10 PM
I posed the question of coloring epoxy too. The feedback was that you should use soft plastic colors mixed with the adhesive and then mix with the hardener.
Posted 23 January 2012 - 08:32 PM
You could also use powder based colorants. They tend to be fairly inert and do not impact reactions.
Posted 25 January 2012 - 12:42 AM
A friend recently bought some very fine, shiney pigment for working with polymer clay when we were in hobby lobby. It's almost like glitter, except a thousand times finer. I suppose it could be the metalic flake thats in pearlescent paints. Anybody tried mixing this stuff with epoxy/ e tech?
Posted 25 January 2012 - 08:52 AM
You could try Mixol Dye.
Posted 25 January 2012 - 01:12 PM
Could you use some rattle can clear over the foil and then shoot some transparent Createx over that? Im not sure I understand the need for tinting the clear coat epoxy. Maybe I misunderstood the question. I do hower see how one can make transparent out of colors that normaly are not trans. This opens up some new areas for me to think about. Thanks for that.
Posted 25 January 2012 - 03:12 PM
I think the problem he's having is that he can't find any transparent yellow paint that's available in his area and he is trying to come up with a way to work around that problem.
Posted 25 January 2012 - 03:17 PM
Like I said " I didnt understand the question" That is normal for me. However in thinking about tinting the epoxy, it may give the bait a totally differnt hue of color on top of the regular paint, maybe it would create a whole different range of colors ect. Maybe it would be a good application in the area of a "ghost" bait of some sort.
Man I love this forum
Posted 25 January 2012 - 04:06 PM
You can add paint to epoxy but I don't think it will give you the results that you want. I would stick with finding the right paint. What kind of paint do you currently use? If it is water based then find transparent createx at a hobby store or off of the internet. Super thinning any paint to get it transparent is not really good either. You really have to shoot it VERY lightly through the air brush or else it will run. If you shoot lacquer then go kind of heavy with retarder. This will work but again it can run. You would have to shoot multiple light coats. I have seen guys use Zoom coloring markers to get the effect after the lure is clear
coated. It works but it is not very professional looking.