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[Griffond]

I have to say guys it really does depend on the kind of lures you are talking about.... there are still allot of commercial lures made in the US you just have to find them... that and there are enough people here on the forum I bet... why not get a bunch of guys together and starting making better blanks and sell them... it could be done.... just my thoughts

[ROWINGADUBAY]

I originally posted this to get some knock off sebile magic swimmers and thats it!!! What is the difference if I spend $30.00 on 1 lure or $30.00 on ten knock offs they are both made in china I called sebile and asked.
I agree that we must try and buy American
but this is a world economy and I really don't care where they are made as long as they catch fish I will buy them and so will others.I don't think to many americans want to sit over an injection molder for minimum wage if china wants to make lures or key chains and stuff like that let them I don't think buying chinese made lures will make or brake the American economy.
HOW CAN YOU BLAME CHINA MAKING LURES IS FUN THEY JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN

[baitmaker2]

This is my last post on this topic because politics and religion are bad topics to discus especially on a board such as this.

The so-called world economy idea is nothing but a scheme developed and instituted by the corporate mega corporations to derive every penny of profit they can muster and then they hammer it into our heads for the past 20 plus years until we think "oh my goodness we cannot do anything about the cheap products being produced overseas and sold here in America and our jobs are gone forever". It is simply a mind game.

When the founding fathers wrote the Constitution they devised ways to support the country and the main source was Tariffs on imported goods. It worked fine until the politicians of the time ( late 1800's and early 1900) schemed a way to bypass the intent of the Constitution and hamstring the working man with excessive taxation (sweat tax or income tax) and relieve the corporate world of paying little if any tariffs on goods they manufacture out of country and import them back into the country. Another ploy schemed up by these corporations and put into law by our representatives was to actually reward these companies who oursource our jobs to recieve tax credits for doing so. When an American company wants to employ Americans to produce their products here in America and then export them into some of these other coutries where the bulk of our jobs went these American companies have to pay high tariffs and are limited to the amount of product they can sell in these countries whether it be automobiles or crank baits. This is this world economy and the free trade our country has lavished upon other countries and in the process lowered Americans standard of living and which will never ever be what it was prior to the mini-depression of 2008.

Do we really need to replace our 46 inch tv with a new 52 inch tv 6 months after we purchased the 46 incher or replace our cell phones every 3 months? We have developed a horrible case of greed in this country wheras we think only of ourselves and forget the big picture. If we didn't learn anything at all from the debacle in 2008 we should have learned that what we are being told isn't always correct and we should do a little research of our own instead of being led like blind mice.

[Brent R]

baitmaker2, on 23 March 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

This is my last post on this topic because politics and religion are bad topics to discus especially on a board such as this.

The so-called world economy idea is nothing but a scheme developed and instituted by the corporate mega corporations to derive every penny of profit they can muster and then they hammer it into our heads for the past 20 plus years until we think "oh my goodness we cannot do anything about the cheap products being produced overseas and sold here in America and our jobs are gone forever". It is simply a mind game.

When the founding fathers wrote the Constitution they devised ways to support the country and the main source was Tariffs on imported goods. It worked fine until the politicians of the time ( late 1800's and early 1900) schemed a way to bypass the intent of the Constitution and hamstring the working man with excessive taxation (sweat tax or income tax) and relieve the corporate world of paying little if any tariffs on goods they manufacture out of country and import them back into the country. Another ploy schemed up by these corporations and put into law by our representatives was to actually reward these companies who oursource our jobs to recieve tax credits for doing so. When an American company wants to employ Americans to produce their products here in America and then export them into some of these other coutries where the bulk of our jobs went these American companies have to pay high tariffs and are limited to the amount of product they can sell in these countries whether it be automobiles or crank baits. This is this world economy and the free trade our country has lavished upon other countries and in the process lowered Americans standard of living and which will never ever be what it was prior to the mini-depression of 2008.

Do we really need to replace our 46 inch tv with a new 52 inch tv 6 months after we purchased the 46 incher or replace our cell phones every 3 months? We have developed a horrible case of greed in this country wheras we think only of ourselves and forget the big picture. If we didn't learn anything at all from the debacle in 2008 we should have learned that what we are being told isn't always correct and we should do a little research of our own instead of being led like blind mice.

Well said.....You have my vote what office are you running for. I think when it comes down to it....the you know who will always sell out....at least that's the way it's been in my 54 years. I hope one day it will change, but i'm not holding my breath.. I guess all we can do is vote.

[bbf]

Sorry guys I wasnt trying to bring down this forum or original topic with politics. I just believe we can build better products here as cheap as overseas, if it wasnt for alot of the political bs. And I wasnt knocking people overseas building products or saying their product isnt any good. Rowingadubay I hope you find those baits and they work for you. Baitmaker2 you are correct about politics and religion. They are touchy subjects to say the least. Ill leave it at this, opinions are like buttholes everybody has one!

[mark poulson]

baitmaker2, on 23 March 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

This is my last post on this topic because politics and religion are bad topics to discus especially on a board such as this.

The so-called world economy idea is nothing but a scheme developed and instituted by the corporate mega corporations to derive every penny of profit they can muster and then they hammer it into our heads for the past 20 plus years until we think "oh my goodness we cannot do anything about the cheap products being produced overseas and sold here in America and our jobs are gone forever". It is simply a mind game.

When the founding fathers wrote the Constitution they devised ways to support the country and the main source was Tariffs on imported goods. It worked fine until the politicians of the time ( late 1800's and early 1900) schemed a way to bypass the intent of the Constitution and hamstring the working man with excessive taxation (sweat tax or income tax) and relieve the corporate world of paying little if any tariffs on goods they manufacture out of country and import them back into the country. Another ploy schemed up by these corporations and put into law by our representatives was to actually reward these companies who oursource our jobs to recieve tax credits for doing so. When an American company wants to employ Americans to produce their products here in America and then export them into some of these other coutries where the bulk of our jobs went these American companies have to pay high tariffs and are limited to the amount of product they can sell in these countries whether it be automobiles or crank baits. This is this world economy and the free trade our country has lavished upon other countries and in the process lowered Americans standard of living and which will never ever be what it was prior to the mini-depression of 2008.

Do we really need to replace our 46 inch tv with a new 52 inch tv 6 months after we purchased the 46 incher or replace our cell phones every 3 months? We have developed a horrible case of greed in this country wheras we think only of ourselves and forget the big picture. If we didn't learn anything at all from the debacle in 2008 we should have learned that what we are being told isn't always correct and we should do a little research of our own instead of being led like blind mice.

I agree totally.
This isn't about politics, it's economics. Rich corporations maximizing their profits at the expense of people.
If they think it's okay to manufacture in other countries, with cheap labor and no environmental protections, I think they should move there, right next to the factories they're using.
Drink that water, and breathe that air.
Instead, they all live here, in the country that gave them their start, and which, thanks to the people who built it, is still the safest, best place to live in the world.

[152nd Street Baits]

ROWINGADUBAY, on 07 February 2012 - 03:01 AM, said:

I seen some blanks of the sebile magic swimmer on Ebay I was wondering if there is a better/cheaper place to purchase looking for about 20 or so after I test one or two out for myself.

http://www.ebay.com/...=item33715f6da5

152nd Street Baits, on 07 February 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

They come from China.
Shoot him an e-mail and see what he'll take. He is the only vendor I know of that has those blanks.

Did you locate any?

[bobv]

mark poulson, on 24 March 2012 - 05:41 AM, said:

I agree totally. This isn't about politics, it's economics. Rich corporations maximizing their profits at the expense of people. If they think it's okay to manufacture in other countries, with cheap labor and no environmental protections, I think they should move there, right next to the factories they're using. Drink that water, and breathe that air. Instead, they all live here, in the country that gave them their start, and which, thanks to the people who built it, is still the safest, best place to live in the world.

I agree, more about greed than politics!!

[gunnie3035]

Give me a break! When is the last time you looked at your: rods, reels, line, hooks, sinkers, electronics, tv set, ipod/ipad/cell phone, none of that sh*t is made in America. So get off this 'buy in America" crap. It is almost as bad as the Obama "save the children speech". People cry about $25 lures from Japan. How much do you think they would cost if they were made in Detroit?? And they still wouldnt be as good as the Japanese baits.....LOL

[woodieb8]

its the rich getting richer.
i will just make baits here in north america.
theres no danger of me getting rich lol.

[swarma]

So...did you ever find the lures? I'm interested in buying some myself. Thank God for KOs