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Posted 15 May 2012 - 04:57 PM
I'm a sucker for just a plane screw eye to screw eye hinging. I love the sound it makes, real quite clacking sound.
Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:18 PM
That is a nice tutorial on hinging. Not sure if it is the best idea to use an acrylic with a nylon hinge pin. Back when diemai tested the nylon hinges used on RC airplane and boats. Even with a stainless steel hinge pin those proved weak around the hinge joint. The hobby metal ones will rust.
Diemai has a tutorial on making this style hinge.
When I use these, I bend the end of the wire back into the space and embed it in the epoxy used to hold the hinge in place.
That type hinge is time consuming when you consider the options.
Barrel swivel - in my experience those fail more often than a fishing knot.
Screw eyes or screw eye with wire or bicycle spokes. I haven't tried those yet, but it is on my agenda.
Figure 8s - haven't tried those either. Seems like a patience tester.
Cotter pins - Another good alternative worth exploring.
Considering all the options, acrylic hinges bearing a nylon pin are not the best solution.
Just my 2 cents.
Edited by garyo1954, 15 May 2012 - 08:20 PM.
Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:46 PM
If im not mistaken, Diemai had a tutorial on forming a hinge from some sheet metal or metal from a can or something like that. (Im getting old.....They say the second thing to go is the memory, and I cant remember what the first thing was.....)
Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:48 PM
Joints have been giving me a hell of a time with swimbaits. I can't recall how many swimbaits I have tried to make and failed. I keep saying I'm "giving up", make a couple lipped cranks, get borred, and go right back to trying another swimbait.
I liked the acrylic piano hinge joint. I think it looks nice and is very consistant, and consistancy is key! The only reason I did not keep up with it is I wanted to make 4 peice 6" swimbaits, and the hinge is simply to large to allow for this.
Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:28 PM
Took some time to find it.
Posted 16 May 2012 - 10:10 AM
We all seem to have the same drive to "reinvent the wheel".
I think it was Nathan who came up with hinge that he incorporated in his resin baits, and it worked well.
And JR Hopkins uses some kind of kevlar hinging, I think.
But I think, for us mere mortals, the screw eye and hinge pin is, by far, the easiest, fastest, and most successful hinging method.
Just take a look at the Triple Trout.
Edited by mark poulson, 16 May 2012 - 10:10 AM.
Posted 16 May 2012 - 08:44 PM
But Mark! I been working on it all day and still can't get this new wheel thingy to turn....
I'm not convinced those fish really care if we ever get one that will chase its tail.
That's enough for today. Wheel making is hard work. Still needs to be cleaned up a bit and the joints squared.
When I was a kid, we'd visit the "folks up home." That meant we were leaving Houston and coming up to East Texas where all the "kinfolk" lived. My aunt had a farm pond ringed by trees. You could walk back there, toss a grasshopper in, and see the bluegills race across the top of the water.
Of course, when me and grandpa was fishing, if I was catching more, he'd swear I was using dumb grasshoppers cuz his was smart enough to get out of the way. Once when he had caught a few in a row, I turned it around. I sez, "Looks like you are getting all the dumb grasshoppers now."
"Nope," he sez, "My grasshoppers are just prettier."
Maybe I'll give up on making this a smart fish and just make it a pretty fish.
Hope everybody had a great day!
Posted 16 May 2012 - 10:41 PM
I must admit that also tried reinventing the wheel. I was trying to create what I thought would be the most freely moving joint yet, but failed. You may have seen me post about it a few weeks ago. I was trying to use bundled braided line. It didnt work and I have elected to use screw eyes on the next one.
Posted 17 May 2012 - 09:24 AM
I sure didn't mean to discourage anyone here from trying different hinging.
I think we've all flirted with different methods, and materials. I know I have.
I've tried, over the years, to find stuff that is faster, easier, and that works.
I like to build, but I like fishing better.
Less time building=more time fishing for me.
Posted 17 May 2012 - 03:08 PM
Mark I agree with you. In my way of doing things the key is simplicity.
That swim bait wasn't anywhere near in my mind until this topic started. That was a first. Probably a last too.
Most everything I work do is in the 2 to 3 inch range and that is a 6 inch bait. I was surprised at the time it took to lay it out, cut each joint, sand and start fitting. I like to build but Holey Moley! Those are a lot of work. And when I consider the time versus the option of cutting a slot and installing screw eyes, Gimme the screw eyes any day.
If it weren't for people like you who say 'this is easier,' I can see somebody building a bonfire with swim baits.
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