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Iwata Revolution Cr , Is This A Good Price?
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 04:05 PM
I have decided it is time to buy an airbrush and have made the choice to buy an Iwata. I can buy a lightly used Revolution CR with hose for $70. Is this a good buy?
Posted 11 May 2012 - 05:17 PM
That's a good price, but does it have the size needle and nozzle setup you want? If you plan on spraying details you'll probably want something smaller than a .5mm nozzle. I'm not sure, but I think the CR only comes with a .5mm setup. You can find them without the hose at Dixie Art and Coast Air for around $95 plus shipping.
If you have a Hobby Lobby close to you they carry Iwata airbrushes and with their online printable 40% off coupon you can get a deal on a good airbrush.
Edited by RayburnGuy, 11 May 2012 - 05:18 PM.
Posted 11 May 2012 - 05:43 PM
Good point on the size. I definitely want a finer detail unit. Looking at the eclipse cs as well.
Posted 11 May 2012 - 06:25 PM
You can get the Iwata Neo also. It is basically the same setup as the Rev except with a .35 needle and nozzle. It is also under $50 at Amazon.
Edited by quickdraw, 11 May 2012 - 06:27 PM.
Posted 11 May 2012 - 10:20 PM
I haven't heard much about the Neo. What are some thoughts on it? Anyone use it?
Posted 11 May 2012 - 10:48 PM
You can't go wrong with that one!
Posted 12 May 2012 - 12:08 AM
Take your time and get lots of info before you decide....It will be worth the wait.....But in most opinions Iwata is the brand but which brush will be up to you....Ask lots of ?????s Good luck
Posted 12 May 2012 - 06:00 AM
I've read both good and bad reviews about the Iwata Neo, but haven't personally used it. You can do an online search for reviews on this airbrush and get some opinions about it. There are a few people here at TU who use it so maybe they will chime in. Brent is right about doing your research. A little study now might save you a lot of aggravation later.
Edited by RayburnGuy, 12 May 2012 - 06:00 AM.
Posted 12 May 2012 - 07:45 AM
I had a Neo for a few days... It quit spraying on me and I cleaned it six ways from Sunday and never could get it running so I took it back. I bought an Iwata HiLine HP-CH and am really glad I spent the extra money.... Another thing to keep in mind is that choosing the right compressor now is imperative. I lowballed a bit and got a Smart Jet instead of going all out but so far it has done everything I need it to do. I definitely recommend the iwata studio series as they run quietly and the Smart jet technology just plain works. Especially for apartment dwellers or folks whose wives aren't terribly sympathetic to their lure making habit.....(ahem....).
Posted 12 May 2012 - 07:51 AM
If you really want to go all out check out the Harder & Steenbeck infinity series...
Posted 12 May 2012 - 11:29 AM
I have an Iwata Revolution BR which comes with a .3mm tip. Unless you are into production painting and need a big reservoir, I consider the 1/16 oz reservoir on a B series Iwata "perfect size". Most of the color shots I do on a crankbait are squeezing 4-5 drops of paint into the reservoir. I also use my Revolution BR for color basecoating and a cup full of white is enough for 2 heavy coats of Polytranspar Superhide White on a crankbait. The .3mm tip is also just large enough to shoot flake and pearl airbrush paints, which a .2 mm tip is not. JMHO, if there is such a thing as a "one brush does it all" high quality but economical a/b out there, this is the one. $70 for the a/b and hose is a good deal. You can often find a Revolution for around $70 retail but without the hose, which costs around $10 extra.
Posted 12 May 2012 - 01:00 PM
also you may want to plan for future growth/enjoyment too - i did some research and what i deciede was going to work best for me was starting with an eclips cs w/ the .35 tip and later on i came back and added and eclipse hps w/ the .5 tip. I like this setup since i can use the CS as my workhorse and main brush, but for doing lots of one color or basecoating or top coating i use the HPS. Another advantage to this setup is i can swap the .5 tips into the CS with no problem and use it to spray heavier/thicker paints or flakes and metallics.
Im not saying this is the perfect setup for you or anyone else, its just what i found works for me. I prefer to really think into the future on things especially tools and such and i usually spend more for a better, higher quality tool to begin with rather than buy it twice. It all depends on your budget and other factors as well
Posted 12 May 2012 - 03:50 PM
BobP... I am a musky fisherman. The smallest bait I throw is 6 inches, typically I throw 9 or 10 inch lures. I do fish bass but I don't think i'll be making many of these. Do you feel the 1/8 cup size in the br would be sufficient for musky baits up to 12 inches long by say 2.5 to 3 inches tall. I have zero air brush experience and really have no frame of reference. I will not be making lures production style, just for me, my son and father in law.
Posted 12 May 2012 - 05:36 PM
I like Iwata brushes. My Eclipse HP-BS is a workhorse with a .35 nozzle and can still paint beyond my ability. I can take it completely apart and put it back together very quickly, so I consider it very user-friendly. Buy brand name paint, shakeit thoroughly, and filter every squirt of it through a small piece of panty-hose stretched beneath the top of your paint container, and you'll avoid clogs.
If you think that all professional airbrush artists use expensive top-shelf guns you'd be wrong. The higher priced guns normally have features that the lower-priced guns such as the Revolution and Eclipse don't have, but they do not sactifice quality. A lot of pros use Revolutions, VL's, Eclipses, etc.
Posted 12 May 2012 - 09:27 PM
to answer your question about the 1/16 oz res. that should be enough for most musky plugs as you really dont put on much paint 8 to 10 drops of paint cover alot of lure and you can aways add a few drops if you did'nt put enought paint in the first time,Remember you only paint one color at a time
Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:45 AM
It only takes a second to squeeze a few more drops into the top of the brush if I run out of paint. However, I was sizing the cup for typical bass baits, not musky baits so can't speak to whether the Rev B cup is the ideal size for that. It's not like you sight down the barrel of the a/b when painting, so a larger cup is not necessarily a detriment, except perhaps in the balance of the a/b. But like Ben said, Iwata uses different size tips depending on the size of the paint reservoir on the brush. I like to use the brush with the smallest tip that will still spray every paint I want to shoot and that's been the .3mm tip. Not to say that guys who use .5mm tips can't do great paint jobs. You'll find that airbrushing is about 75% user skill and 25% equipment.
Posted 13 May 2012 - 08:27 AM
Exactly. I could go out and buy the best set of custom fitted super high zoot golf clubs in existence and Tiger Woods would beat me by 30 strokes using a crooked stick with a rock tied on the end of it. Speaking personally... My equipment is way better than my current skill level warrants me having. The good news is that having good equipment flattens the learning curve to an extent.
Posted 13 May 2012 - 10:42 AM
Yeah, I noticed early on that there are guys on TU who are true crankbait artists using airbrushes that many here would consider of lesser quality than Iwata or other high-end manufacturers. In the end, it's about the artist, not the paint brush. There's a technical and an artistic side to airbrushing, and for me the technical is mostly about learning to control the airbrush. Better equipment makes learning control easier and faster but I'm living proof that it doesn't make you an airbrush master artist.