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Iwata Revolution Cr , Is This A Good Price?
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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:34 PM
BobP I totally agree with you. There are a lot of details that go into being proficient with an airbrush. I keep trying to learn. Maybe I make it too hard. I keep saying the paint has to be just right, the pressure has to be just right and even then, when you think you are going too slow, you have to slow down. When things go bad it's like you need a ready reference checklist on what to check.
These are the brushes I have. Nothing special. Paasche Dual Action VL (red one), Badger Single 200NH (blue one), and an unknown little plastic jobber. When I bought the Paasche, I was doing a lot of spray painting and thought it would translate over easily. It didn't. I got frustrated.
I got the Badger because it is a detail brush thinking it would help me do details. It didn't. I got frustrated.
Looking back I wasn't as bad as I thought, and still not as good as the lure artists in the gallery.
This is the jitterbug body from the other thread painted up to give an idea of what the Paasche will look like in the wrong hands.....
I just keep telling myself this is a hobby. I'm supposed to enjoy it! But like everybody else I want to be good at it too.
Yep, I agree BobP. Airbrushing is part art and part technical skill.
Posted 13 May 2012 - 09:04 PM
That is true, but, patience and persistence can overcome a lack of either. Just keep at it.
Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:05 PM
I am no artist with an airbrush, but I manage.
I have a cheap siphon Badger brush, with a .5 needle and three extra bottles.
I use it for undercoating lures when I have a lot to do. I think I could spray tar through it!
I can leave the undercoat paint in one of the bottles, capped, and it will last as well as in the original plastic bottle until the next time I use it.
I use one of the bottles for washing out and back flushing (watch the exposed needle point).
I have an Iwata HP BS with a .35 needle and the larger cup for almost all of my color painting.
The brushes you have will do the job for you, no question.
Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:29 PM
Well, I bought the compressor. 6 gallon, 2 HP & 150 PSI. I got a good deal on it and wanted something small enough for me to tote around for DIY home projects. I filled it up and turned the pressure down to 45 PSI and let the needle (for football's) let air out until empty. Took a good long while, so I should have plenty of air capacity to do a lure at a time, which is my plan. Make 2 at a time, again, not intended for "production" style lure building. I also ordered the Iwata Eclipse BS, cant wait to get it! I have two 7 inch blanks I carved/sanded out of Poplar to play with. In MN, Musky opener is the first weekend of June, I hope to have them all finished up and water ready by then. I'll post pick's of my first 2 air brush painted lures. As for paint, I have none at the moment, but plan on going with Createx "wicked" colors. I absolutely love the pearl finish and the metalic colors for more flash. I'll probably experiment on paper to see how the layers work. I intend to paint one in a perch pattern, and the other in a bluegill pattern. I may be a bit too agressive in saying they will be ready by the musky opener, as I have yet to seal the bodies up for weight testing. I have not made a crankbait in ages and the last one was a copy so weighting wasn't too much of an issue. The two lures, one will be a 7.5 inch glider jerkbait with a squirly tail (twister tail) attached to the end. The crankbait is intended to be a 7 inch shallow diver (3-6 ft) with a lot of boyancy to back it up out of weeds. As I usually do when tinkering, I probably over engineer things and think and rethink and then rethink again, on things. I hope I'll have time to finish in 3 weeks. I'll let you all know. Thanks for the input everyone.
Posted 15 May 2012 - 02:17 AM
Great compressor Grey Ghost! Have the pancake Porter-Cable with similar specs and have used it to shoot texture, brads, nails, paint and airbrush. That's a GOOD choice.
One additional suggestion, if you don't already have one. Get some type of moisture trap. Different companies will call them different things, but they are all designed for the purpose of separating the moisture to deliver dry air to your brush and keep the moisture out of your tools as well. Iwata makes a pistol grip moisture filter (available at hobby lobby for about $30). Harbor Freight has a mini air line filter for about $6.50. Lowes has a mini filter for about $12. Moisture trap, moisture filter, air filer, water separator, etc.....they all do the same thing which is take moisture out of the air.
I'm using an inline desiccant dryer....
Some people see a pressure drop when adding one of these filters. (I think) it works on this because it is an old style continuous run machine. I tested it by running air through a length of vinyl tubing and seeing the moisture build up. Then I installed the filter and watched the tubing get dry. Harbor freight carries these for about $7.50.
Don't know who is using what, but those are the basic options you have to separate the moisture and air.
Congratulations on the great buy! Can't wait to see you finish those lures in time!
Edited by garyo1954, 15 May 2012 - 02:18 AM.
Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:11 AM
I put a cheap Harbor Freight combination moisture trap/pressure regulator right where the air supply hose comes to my air brush connection manifold, so I can adjust the pressure more easily. Keeping your compressor at floor level also helps moisture to stay down in the supply hose, instead of passing up to the air brush.
If I had it to do over, I'd get quick disconnect fittings for my hose and air brushes, so I wouldn't have three hoses draped over my work area all the time, like I do now.
Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:05 AM
If your going to practice your painting skills you might want to do some of your practicing on a piece of PVC pipe. It's already white so no need for a white base coat and being round you can practice painting on contours similar to what a lure will have. And you can wash it off so your able to use the same piece over and over.
Posted 19 May 2012 - 09:02 AM
iwata neo is total junk , i had one for less than 5 days and it quit spraying , like someone else mentioned i cleaned it any and everyway,,,,,,,,,still researching,getting by with a harbor frieght special for 9,99 until i find something good,,,,,scared me that iwata would have their name associated with such garbage, made me wonder if all iwata will end up like this.