Amazing Clear Cast
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 01:51 PM
bobv, I would guess that they do get that hot. I know some of the ceiling fans we used to install, that had thermostats on them, wouldn't turn on until it got up to 140 in an attic. I know that doesn't have anything to do with a boat, but it does show how hot temps get in weird places. Musky Glenn
Posted 04 September 2012 - 06:21 PM
I keep my tackle in a plastic tackle box on a top shelf in my garage. The temps easily break 100 degrees in August in SE Louisiana. I have ony made three batches of lures using ACC in the past two months. I have had no issues with yellowing or bubbling of the clear coat. The specs sheet that came with the ACC states that it contains "UV Stabilizers."
On an unrelated issue, I did add glitter to the ACC prior to brushing it on and it added a pretty cool effect to the finish on the lure. I hope the bass feel the same way.
Posted 14 September 2012 - 07:18 PM
Been away for awhile. I live in the steam bathed east coast, and the ACC is quickly becoming a favorite of mine. I have been able to ramp up the number of baits I do at a time, to 8. I have 8 positions on my turner, so..
The humidy is not a factor.
I still strictly adhere to the 1.2 to 1 rule with a jewelers scale. I do this so I can pour directly into the same cup, weighing 8.4 grams A to 7 grams B for 8 plugs. I stir for at least 3 minutes and then let it sit for 10-15m. I work very fast, so brushing on 8 4in plugs only takes another 10-15 minutes. Well within the working time.
I think ACC is so good that I will keep posting this thread as I see the long term effects happen. My fishing season is just gettin underway, and Ive just been building baits for my me and friends with ACC. We will all be testing this stuff out over the next 6 months as the sea trout move in to their wintering holes.
I destroyed some test plugs, and isnt wasnt easy to do. I also left some on the dashboard (direct sunlite) and they got real soft at 125d. Dont do it with a good one, is all I can say about that. Will see is they yellow over time. I dont care a wit about that for my personal stuff.
Posted 15 September 2012 - 11:17 AM
One concern I have is baits in a hot tackle box banging around. If heat softens this finish wouldn't it get damaged on a hot summer day in your boat storage while your running around the lake?
Posted 15 September 2012 - 04:07 PM
I did fish a little last month and the ones in the tackle bag and flip flop were a-ok. Some were hanging in direct sunlite for several hours, and they were ok as well. They got banged around for sure. I could tell the heat was soaking in to the ones hanging in the sun, and they were easier to impress my thumbnail into, but I swear this stuff seems to almost heal itself a little bit. I heard someone else say this about ACC. Whatever the recipe is, its resilient and tuff.
That dashboard test in direct sunlite seemed like way more punishment than I would ever do on the water. I used an infrared thermometer and anything above125f was about it. It wasnt like the finish melted away or anyhting, it just got way softer. After they cooled, it was good to go.
Posted 15 September 2012 - 05:06 PM
3hrs is the minimum for me. Handle them lightly by 6, and full cure 24-36.
Posted 21 September 2012 - 07:19 AM
I don't build lures for toothy critters, but I have built successful PVC salt water swimbaits that I top coated with a waterproof urethane. They held up fine, but did scratch from the teeth.
It seems to me that a clear that's tough, but not hard, would be a perfect top coat for PVC lures, which are harder than wood, but totally waterproof.
Posted 08 October 2012 - 07:28 PM
We had an awesome day on the water throwing just 3 different slow sinkers with ACC. Hook rash on 2 of em was getting thru pretty quickly. One of the plugs had inline (VMC) trebles up front, and did very well. The finish (ACC) didnt shatter, but needed repair. We were catchin sea trout, and the tooth marks were not a factor. Although, they will crunch down on a finger, if given the chance!
The plugs were built with PVC, -foil,-D2T,-paint,-clear,-one coat of ACC,.
The D2T was undamaged, and I think was cushioned by the ACC like a laminate.
MO- its all a tradeoff of hardness and flexibilty. I still like this stuff, but if I go with 2 coats, I dont think it will help. I'll stick with inline hooks.
Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:12 PM
ACC is awesome. I painted this over all my my expensive topwater lures so the paint job remain looking good. I also added colored and hologram glitter to the ACC prior to painting it on. I did not have any problems with painting it on. Will take about 24-26 hours to fully cure.
Posted 12 October 2012 - 07:42 PM
I don't mean to affend anyone by posting this but those looking for another top coat should look at http://www.solarez.c...snew/gloss.html I have been using this for a few hundred baits now and I will never go back to D2T or Dick Nite. It is made to cure with UV light. In other words stick them out in the sun or use UV lights. I can put 2 coats on and have them cured and ready to fish in less than an hour. It is rock hard and will never yellow. I bought 2 quarts ($21.50 per quart) to use and I have done 2 coats on 306 baits now and still have enough to do another 200+ baits, the second quart is still unopened. This stuff will not start to cure until it has UV light so you can coat as many baits as you want with no worries of it hardening. I brush it on my baits. If you put it outside it doesn't matter how cold it is or if their is direct sunlight because you have UV light even if it is cloudy. I use tanning bed lights to cure mine http://www.tanningla...m/uvcuring.html Again sorry if anyone felt I took over this post but I just wanted to throw another option out there.
Posted 12 October 2012 - 07:57 PM
Sounds like some good stuff. How brittle is it? What are you cleaning up with? Thank you for sharing.
Posted 13 October 2012 - 06:20 AM
I haven't noticed any brittle problems but it is definatley hard. I haven't painted any baits that have any flex or give. One of the nice things about this product is that you can stop its curing process at any point. In other words if you don't want a rock hard bait but you want a bit of flexibility don't cure it as long. I don't think it would have near the flexibility of D2T. They have many products though and I haven't began to try them all. I clean my brushes with acetone but if I get it on my hands or any where else I just use denatured alcohol.
Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:20 AM
Is the polyester resin in the comparisons the same type as the Solarez material?
Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:32 AM
Don't know, just researched by type.
Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:36 AM
That Solarez stuff sounds so good, I'm guessing it is different than the polyester resin we used to use for surfboards.
Maybe it is the modification for UV curing.
I'm no chemist, so I'm just guessing.
I'm hoping bass100 will be our onsite tester, and report back how it holds up over time.
Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:42 AM
What UV light did you need to cure your lures?
Did you build it yourself?
Will those UV bulbs work in regular fluorescent light fixtures?
So many questions, so little time...Hahaha
Posted 13 October 2012 - 02:44 PM
I believe the Solarez is for surfboards, did you check out their site?
Posted 14 October 2012 - 05:17 AM
I looked, but not to see if it was surfboard resin. I'll check it again today.
Edited by mark poulson, 14 October 2012 - 05:17 AM.