MonteSS Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 So I got some white Microballons. Added two heaping tablespoons to 4 oz plastic. Needed ALOT of black to counteract the white MB. I poured 6" round trick worms and even with a light wire 1/0 EWG hook it sank slowly. So no good as a true floating worm but the tail does stand up on a shackey head, texas, or drop shot. ...Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J lure Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 I'm having the same issue, there has to be a better product or even better way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 good luck on floating any bait w/ a hook in it.. I have had the same issues in the past.. as far as I know you have done the best you can.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNC Molds N Stuff Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) I have heard you can float something the size of a frog with 1:1 by volume. Unfortunately it makes the bait so stiff even the thinnest tails won't kick. My answer if I can get it to work (when I have time to play) is to make a 1:1 body and pure plastic tails. Edited July 27, 2012 by Bob La Londe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 meaning -- half plastic & half floater bubbles ? a 50/50 mix ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 I don't remember the exact amount, but I ended up using 4 times the recommended amount of micro spheres and it still wouldn't float a 4" frog with a 5/0 hook. Besides that, that stuff is very dangerous and a PIA to use. It is almost lighter than air. No fans, no moving air, no sneezing.......reminds me of an old Woody Allen movie You should be wearing a respirator when using it. They are glass spheres which you don't want to inhale. Never tried the liquid stuff but any worm will want to float toward the surface is you don't use salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Does anyone know where to get micro-bubbles in a color other than white? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 I think that one reason micro bubbles don't work well is because of heat expansion. If your plastic gets too hot I personly think that the bubbles burst. In those micro hollow spheres that air has to expand and go somewhere. The softer the plastic the better it floats. I've used lure craft's super soft to make a 10" finese worm and it would float a 2/0 gamagatsu hook with no bubbles at all, when the water tension would break it would sink very very slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Has anyone tried floating foam, like the "pills" that are used to make floating snells? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieterbez Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 You can try the Floating Foam from Caney Creek Molds http://www.caneycreekmolds.com/Miscellaneous_c_49.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saugerman Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 I have, .You have to have a pretty meaty worm though, I only used it in the tail of a 6 1/4 trick worm. I beleive it would make a worm stiff ,if used in the whole worm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Saugerman, did it float to the surface w/ a hook in it? neat stuff,, but i do not think it will work in a finesse mold, it will be to fat.. if I read it rite, its $ 1.00 per foot + shipping. Looks like he used 2 pc. @ apx. 1.5 " long each in the toad. so i am guessing he put 30 cents worth in 1 bait.. what do you guys think ?? Edited August 1, 2012 by Bass-Boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saugerman Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 I used a piece about 1 inch long,back next to the tail,it stood the tail up high.But it is to big for a little finesse worm. It is as you said, a little pricey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass4Me Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Try and think out of the box guys. Can the foan br trimmed or cut n half. What about melting it too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 i think you could cut the foam the long way with a razor blade. mite work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 How about a mold that you can set a length of coat hanger in. After you pour the worm just pull the hanger out. There's your floatation. Nothing softer than air; lol. Just leave enough solid worm at the head to allow for the hook. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Hmm?? maybe ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 I can't take credit for that idea. That was done back in the early 90's. Can't remember the company though. They worked quite well. They were designed for the carolina rig. They would float even better if you close off the open end. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass4Me Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Manns bait company made some 6 in or 8 in worms with a hollow chamber in them. That was back in the late 80's/90-91 time frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNC Molds N Stuff Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 I was going to ask about the popper worm. I haven't seen one, but it was described to me is a big fat floating worm with a cup around the middle that sprayed water everywhere when it was jerked. Obviously Siezmic has got the floating figured out with their "High Floater" frogs too. Anyway, some people have obviously gotten the floating palstic figured out. The temperature causing the ballons to pop makes sense I suppose... I'll have to do some experiments with running the plastic right on the edge of too cold to shoot and see. Porbably have to keep it in a hot cup rather than remicrowaving it to see how it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Manns bait company made some 6 in or 8 in worms with a hollow chamber in them. That was back in the late 80's/90-91 time frame. There you go. I knew someone would remember them. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 I was going to ask about the popper worm. I haven't seen one, but it was described to me is a big fat floating worm with a cup around the middle that sprayed water everywhere when it was jerked. Obviously Siezmic has got the floating figured out with their "High Floater" frogs too. Anyway, some people have obviously gotten the floating palstic figured out. The temperature causing the ballons to pop makes sense I suppose... I'll have to do some experiments with running the plastic right on the edge of too cold to shoot and see. Porbably have to keep it in a hot cup rather than remicrowaving it to see how it does. Popper worm is very easy to pour. Take a stick mold(not injection) pour the bait filling the spru to the top. Do not top off the spru and as the plastic cools and contracts it will form the popper mouth. And that's the name of that tune; lol. Oh yah; no salt. www.novalures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNC Molds N Stuff Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 That is "a" popping worm I suppose, but its not at all the way "The" Popper Worm was described to me. It still doesn't answer how they or Siezmic manage to create a floating plastic that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass4Me Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 We need someone from the forum to infultrate Zoom Bait Co and get the secret they use for their floating worms. If possible......... bring back a couple thousand gallons of the floating plastic and divide it out amoungst us, lol. I've read the forums about those glass bubbles. Does lurecraft sell that for floating plastics? If I have too, I'll buy some white floating worms from Zoom and melt them down to help make my own floating snakes. I know it's desperate, BUT - For now, I do not care about saving money to get my snakes made. At lease until I find a good and safe product to use for making floating plastic baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 It may sound simple, but since you're doing a white bait, why dont you just incorperate air into your plastic? If you stir and fold you should get air bubbles in your plastisol, just be sure to keep in mind all saftey precautions. Some people get alot of micro bubbles using Lure Works's plastisol when heated in a microwave, you can always keep some on hand just to do floating worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
