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Posted 19 September 2012 - 10:40 AM
Where is the best place to get foil for a bait? Do they make it with a adhesive backing?
Posted 19 September 2012 - 11:42 AM
I get mine from Sunshine Glass Works. It's called Venture Britebak. I think this particular brand is only offered in silver now, but by spraying a light coat of Createx transparent sunshine yellow over it you can get a really nice gold color. There are numerous suppliers who offer adhesive backed foils. Jones Tones is one that comes to mind although I'm not sure they offer it with an adhesive backing. Just do a search for "adhesive backed foil" on the 'net and you'll get plenty of results.
Posted 19 September 2012 - 11:47 AM
Not sure about gold foil but a few guys use a foil product that's used for duct work. It's very thin but it isn't gold. I've used it in my line of work and it is available at Home Depot. Hope this helps..
Posted 19 September 2012 - 07:42 PM
The Venture Brite-bak is the best I've used. It's designed for stained glass artists, is very thin and tough, with an adhesive backing. They used to sell a gold foil but it was more a brass color than gold and it would discolor under most topcoats. They discontinued it, don't know if they later came up with a new gold foil that works better. I'm with Rayburn Guy on using their silver foil. Spray a little Createx transparent yellow over it and you have a nice gold finish.
Posted 20 September 2012 - 07:12 AM
That is a pretty lure!
You do beautiful work.
The "gold" foil is terrific.
Posted 20 September 2012 - 09:58 AM
Thanks Mark. Really just got lucky with that particular bait. Had a pretty good idea it would get me close, but was pleasantly surprised at how well it matched the Rapala perch color.
Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:33 AM
That is a nice looking bait. I will probably order some silver and paint it
Posted 20 September 2012 - 01:11 PM
Is there a trick to getting the foil to follow the contours of the lure, or is it just keep cutting until it lays down?
Posted 20 September 2012 - 01:33 PM
I agree with RayburnGuy, Sunrise over chrome or silver, and make sure you heat set it, makes a great gold. Musky Glenn
Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:25 PM
Mark, the only "trick" I know to getting the foil to lay down is to burnish the tar out of it. When I start I make sure to start in the middle of the foil cutout and press down while working my way out to the edges. Both towards the ends and the top of the lure. If it starts trying to wrinkle, and it will on baits will multiple contours, I try to lift up the areas beside the wrinkles and pull them tight as possible before working it back down. Once you get started it's pretty self explanatory. The foil will tell you where it needs to be stretched and pulled to make it lay down flat. Now take into mind I don't try to get the foil completely wrapped around the bait. I always leave the top and bottom to be covered up with paint. After burnishing the foil flat I apply a coat of epoxy to hide the raised edges of the foil at the top and bottom. This is done before painting because paint won't hide anything unless it is applied over a smooth surface. I also use a variety of burnishing tools. Everything from the plastic barrel of a permanent marker to tongue depressors depending on how tight the area is that I'm trying to get the foil to lay down.
If you still have questions, or don't understand my ramblings, just holler and I'll try to explain it better.
Edited by RayburnGuy, 20 September 2012 - 02:26 PM.
Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:52 PM
I understand burnish the "tar" out of it. My Mom being from Arkansas used the term "your Dad is going whoop the "tar" out of you when he gets home.....LOL
Edited by bassguy, 20 September 2012 - 02:54 PM.
Posted 20 September 2012 - 06:26 PM
Posted 21 September 2012 - 11:13 AM
I first started using the Britebak foil around 02 or 03 for foiling baits . The gold foil they sold was actually made of brass and didn't seem to adhere as good as the silver foil . I normally use a plastic spoon for burnishing and then wipe down the foil covered bait with a paper towel damp with rubbing alcohol to maximize the shine . I had a buddy who is a machinist make me an embossing tool with a round brass bar cut with a "knurling tool cutter" for imprinting a scale pattern into the foil . I use Devcon 2t for the outer finish and have yet to see a bait's
foil lose it's shine under the top coat .
Posted 22 September 2012 - 02:29 AM
Thanks Pete. How are you doing? Hope all is well "down under".
Posted 25 September 2012 - 07:19 AM
My Brite Back came in the mail yesterday. I tried it last night on a bait. It is very stiff but I think it will work well. I am concerned about the weight of it. Have you noticed a difference with the action of a lure with this applied?
Posted 25 September 2012 - 07:47 AM
this stuff is extremely light (aluminum) and if the bait is covered head to toe the weight distribution should be even ,unless you have an extremely sensitive bait you should be OK .