Solarez Uv Top Coat
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:16 PM
nevermind. 0.5oz for $3.25, I'll stick with wood filler.
Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:28 PM
Sorry, saturating the post now... That's what happens when you are deprived of TU for a couple months!
I would imagine that any "plant" bulb (from home depot) should work too since they should have UV (and be a little cheaper)
Posted 23 October 2012 - 12:05 AM
I got mine in today but haven't tried it yet. I've used UV cure adhesives at work for a few years now and it's really a neat technology. Fast like super glue but it doesn't set up until you expose it to light, and it also fills gaps well. The one downside is you can't use it in places that cannot be exposed to light. That's OK for a topcoat but it may not work so well as an adhesive behind anything that's not transparent. I have a little unit for curing fingernail finishes that I bought on eBay to use for other projects so that's what I plan to use. There are inexpensive fluorescent UV lights that should work fine, have even seen full-size fluorescent tubes at Home depot. Always be really careful about eye exposure when using UV light. There are clear safety glasses that block UV if you have to work around it. I just put my light unit inside an opaque box.
Posted 23 October 2012 - 01:43 AM
Does it turn yellow - with age or in the sun? If so how much time does it take to see the yellowing?
Do skirts or rubber adhere to it?
Does it cover stick on eyes?
Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:29 AM
Not supposed to yellow...new to me I have to give it time
I would say yes skirts will bond to it if left on
it will cover eyes I took two coats to cover the eyes
Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:00 AM
I wonder if it continues to "cure" if exposed to sunlight for extended periods and possibly get brittle?
Sounds interesting! Thanks for sharing!
Posted 23 October 2012 - 02:40 PM
Here is what I was told from the manufacturer:
The photoinitiator is a stoichiometric mix (it is used up in the reaction) so when it cures, it's done.
UV light does break C=C bonds in nature and UV light is degrading to some resins. There are resins that are immune to UV light (aliphatic urethanes) and there are some that are mildly suceptible (polyester) and can be protected by UV inhibitors like we do. We filter out the damaging<350nm and allow through the 365-385nm"
Hope that helps!
Posted 23 October 2012 - 06:45 PM
Wondering how it would hold up to Musky, Pike and other toothy fish?
Posted 23 October 2012 - 07:14 PM
Believe it's primary use is surfboard coating ...not sure what kind of abuse that exposes it to. I have not had a chance to field test it yet.
Posted 23 October 2012 - 07:48 PM
I tried this stuff years ago after buying a tanning/blacklight to cure it with. I couldn't get it to cure quickly enough so gave up on it. As I recall the odor was HORRIBLE! So bad I quickly had to move the operation into the garage. I love the idea but I ran into two problems, odor and cure time.
Posted 23 October 2012 - 07:54 PM
It does smell until it cures, then no smell. Cure time less than 10 minutes just using sunlight
Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:35 PM
UV Lamp...I just got it and we were fortunate to have sunshine this weekend. I have a lamp on order.
Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:42 PM
This was posted by ...Bass 100
I don't mean to affend anyone by posting this but those looking for another top coat should look athttp://www.solarez.c...snew/gloss.html I have been using this for a few hundred baits now and I will never go back to D2T or Dick Nite. It is made to cure with UV light. In other words stick them out in the sun or use UV lights. I can put 2 coats on and have them cured and ready to fish in less than an hour. It is rock hard and will never yellow. I bought 2 quarts ($21.50 per quart) to use and I have done 2 coats on 306 baits now and still have enough to do another 200+ baits, the second quart is still unopened. This stuff will not start to cure until it has UV light so you can coat as many baits as you want with no worries of it hardening. I brush it on my baits. If you put it outside it doesn't matter how cold it is or if their is direct sunlight because you have UV light even if it is cloudy. I use tanning bed lights to cure mine http://www.tanningla...m/uvcuring.html Again sorry if anyone felt I took over this post but I just wanted to throw another option out there.
I haven't noticed any brittle problems but it is definatley hard. I haven't painted any baits that have any flex or give. One of the nice things about this product is that you can stop its curing process at any point. In other words if you don't want a rock hard bait but you want a bit of flexibility don't cure it as long. I don't think it would have near the flexibility of D2T. They have many products though and I haven't began to try them all. I clean my brushes with acetone but if I get it on my hands or any where else I just use denatured alcohol.
As far as testing goes I have done a 48 hour soak and there was no problems. Yes I built my own light box and all the info for the lights and fixtures can be found with the link I provided earlier. If there is any questions about the lights, fixtures, or ballasts just give them a call and they will help you out. Yes solarez makes resins for surfboards, guitars, tying flies, as well as many many other things. Just check out their website it is under "uses". They even have videos of them using it on a few things and surfboards is one of them. I talked to solarez about wether it would thicken up in cold weather and they told me that any time I want it to be thinner just microwave it for 10 seconds at a time. I have done that and it works fine. The durability so far has been great. I live in PA and the thing we have the most of is rock so my cranks take a beating and I haven't had one chip yet. They will scratch up though. I have fished hundreds of baits with D2T and they don't hold up long with rocks and Dick Nites isn't even worth throwing in rocks. I am not trying to push this topcoat on anyone just giving another option. Everyone has their own favorite this one just happens to be mine until something better comes along. One more thing, Solarez sells a UV light bulb that will go into any lamp, don't buy them. At $28 dollars a bulb they don't last long at all. Tanning bed lights are cheaper and will last for over a 1000 hours but Solarez's bulbs didn't last 20 hours.
Edited by Brent R, 23 October 2012 - 08:43 PM.
Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:17 AM
Well I got mine in the mail yesterday...apparently they didn't get the lid sealed well.The plastic bag wrapped around my quart of Solarez was full of product that had leaked...I'll be on the phone to them today...There is still some that is salvageable in the bottle to mess with...Nathan
Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:34 AM
Mine was a mess as well...take it out in the sun for a few minutes (with the cap on it)...the product on the outside of the bottle will cure and won't be tacky. I would guess I did not lose much of the product but it was an annoyance.
Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:38 AM
Here is a response I got to a request to try and get more of a gloss finish as opposed to the "satin" finish:
Philip Jarog wrote:
That should help with the "dolphin-skin" effect but polyesters have styrene in them and it is volatile. What you are seeing is the pit holes from departing styrene. If you were to use the urethane acrylates (fishing lure resins) you'd see a gum-drop finish
So it seems you will never get the crystal clear finish you get with Devcon or auto clears. But for most applications I think the ease of use more than makes up for it.