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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:50 AM
I understand what you're saying. Each material has it's own virtues and drawbacks.
But Ben's right.
No matter what material you choose to work with, a dust mask, minimum, is really important.
I am a retired carpenter. I worked with wood, and in construction dust, most of my life.
When I was younger, I used to love the smell of sawdust, deisel, and all of the chemicals and materials I worked with. I still love the smell of wood.
But prolonged exposure to all that stuff made my sinuses super sensitive to any kind of dust or chemical smell.
Even a woman's perfume gives me a headache now.
I guess it's kind of like exposure to UV rays from the sun. Over time, the damage builds up.
So, whichever material you choose to build your lures from, protect yourself.
Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:16 AM
Ben and Mark
I absolutely agree!
Though the hazards of wood inhalation are well documented, they may not be known to the novice lure maker\wood worker nubie like myself and many others sure to visit this site. Thank you both!! I can be and am more cavalier than I should be when it comes to wood dust. Like a teenager on his first date, unaware am i of the long hard bumpy road laying ahead.
One of the things that does not lay easy with me with PVC is the fact we are treading in relatively new water with PVC. I am thinking the hazards have not been fully vetted yet. Or at least using the way we do with the sanding. But like a teenager, builders, protection is a must no matter who your dating!!
Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:54 PM
If it smells funny, it's probably not good for you to breathe, period.
Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:55 PM
if balsa smelled like cedar, I would have never even considered pvc!
Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:38 PM
I personally like/prefer cedar because there is no need for through wire harnesses, and I like the smell. I like Bass wood because again no through wire harness. I like white pine for its wide, lazy action. Still learning about Balsa with a dowel in the tail but I do like the lively action that it gives you. Haven't tried PVC yet but it is on my to do list.
Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:21 AM
Years ago I looked at paulownia for planting in my yard, but I never dreamed it would be a wood I might use.
The literature says it's stable even when it's damp. Does it swell when it gets wet?
Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:06 AM
Same here Mark. I planted two "Royal Empress" tree's not realizing they were paulownia with a fancy name. I really like it as a wood for cranks. It's soft enough to carve easily although you need to be careful around the grain as it can tear. Can't answer your question about it swelling as I've only used it to build baits and kept it away from water before sealing.
Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:12 AM
This is all really good reading material ....I never would have thought of carving cedar I'd have thought it'd been too hard...
Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:33 AM
The wood will retain some moisture but nothing like most of the other woods we use. It is really similar to balsa in almost every aspect. Just tougher. I seem to remember reading Gene doing a comparison of water retention some time back. And, I found it! Make sure you read Dave's take on the numbers. Gene(thank you ) recommend the wood to me and by just plain dumb luck have it growing all over the yard. I haven't looked back since. Really good wood for baits. But if your looking for something with less buoyancy, then, look elsewhere. Here is the link:
Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:21 AM
I had forgotten that thread. I did read it when he first posted it.
I just printed it out so I'll have it on hand.
Now you have me trying to find some paulownia locally to try for my shallow cranks.
I have a shload of redwood leftover from jobs in my lumber pile. It is really light, but soft and weak.
Plus the dust from working it really tears up my sinuses. Otherwise, I'd have tried it long ago.
But paulownia sound like a fun wood to try.
Edited by mark poulson, 20 November 2012 - 09:25 AM.
Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:04 AM
Your welcome Mark
But like you always say, just passing on what was given to me by the fine folks here at TU.
I too have bad sinus problems. Just born that way unfortunately for me. So, I know where your coming from on that front. First started lures on mini lathe. No mask or anything. Really ignorant but my sinuses would let me know something was wrong with every lure I carved. It left me unable to breathe for a day or two. I was working with cedar and basswood at the time. Both just killed me. Terrible sinus headaches. A friend gave me a carving a knife and with Gene's tutorial I have been making lures this way ever since. A knife makes slow work but not much dust and can be done anywhere.
I too have a stack(eastern red cedar) of lumber outback. My wife has plans for a table which someday I will be making.
The paulownia trees will be harder to spot this time of year with the leaves falling. But their large heart shaped elephant ear leaves are pretty easy to spot. A very brittle tree due to their fast growth. I see them here along the side of the road. Might try calling some tree trimming services. Sure they see about every kind of tree imaginable.
Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:15 AM
Just wanted to add one more thing....
Sanding..... Paulownia is a dream compared to PVC. Not as easy as Balsa but I believe this is a good thing. Easily enough sands to that butter smooth finish we are all looking for .
Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:17 PM
Thanks, I will have to seek some out to give it a try. I love seeing the different actions of different woods and different building processes as well.
Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:31 PM
Didn't I send you some paulownia a few years back?
Thanks for the kudos!
Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:07 AM
You did. It was at the time I was first switching to PVC, and I never tried it. Now I can't find it!
Grrr!!! It doesn't pay to get old. Hahaha
Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:53 AM
Your not old Mark. Your like me. Our brains are just getting a little moldy.
Posted 24 November 2012 - 10:15 AM
I just need a new memory chip.
My kids think I need a whole new hard drive! Hahaha