Cmiller23 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Nathan - I looked at the direct colors website, AC1315 is high gloss, there doesn't seem to be an AC1315 satin finish. The satin finish is just another type of concrete sealer they sell I think. CMiller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskyGary Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 I just ordered a sample also. When you dip your lure;; are you pouring some in a container and throwing away what you don't use or are you dipping directly into the can it comes in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 I may have clicked on the wrong thing..i clicked on the sample size and it took me to satin finished product... Cmiller..Thank you for the update on this!!..Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmiller23 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Musky - I dipped it directly into the can, that may or may not be a good idea, time will tell. You would waste a lot of it if you threw away what you did not use from dipping it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Nathan, I ordered the gloss sample. I called them first to see if they would ship to Calif., and the woman said yes, so, if this works, it may be an alternative for people in other "smart" states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmiller23 Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 This stuff is rock solid, so after a two week cure now, I went out and tossed one of my old test crankbaits I coated in it 30-50ft in the air and let it smash onto the concrete just to see, I did this probably two dozen times, my wife gave me a funny look. I cannot hardly tell, I can only find some minor blemishes, no cracks, nothing. I'm sold. D2T will be a thing of the past for me now. Now my nurse wife can stop stealing big 10mL syringes for me to measure my D2T out accurately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Thanks for the "field" testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Definatley thank you for the field testing and feed back!!...Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Now that you guys have been using the concrete sealers for a while has anyone had any storage issues? thanks, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) My sample arrived this evening. I'll try dipping something tomorrow, and let you know how it goes. Their site says: Apply in thin coats. Do not exceed three coats of sealer. Allow each coat to dry for a minimum of 4-6 hours between coats. Applying an additional coat of sealer to a surface that is tacky, milky or has ridges will not improve the overall appearance of the floor and will only compound existing problems. Allow the final coat of sealer to dry for 24-48 hours depending on weather conditions before allowing vehicle traffic. Note: Allow for 48-72 hours dry time for floors sealed with solvent based sealers before applying Residentialor Commercial Wax. Use xylene for tool and sprayer clean-up. I may get only two coats on something tomorrow, but I should be able to tell if it's user friendly. I plan to have both front and rear doors of my garage open, and a fan blowing from back to front, so I don't get knocked out by the fumes. I plan to let it drip back into the open can. If it's going to be a problem, I want to find out now, before I order a bigger container. Once I've made the first dip, I'll get an idea of how fast it dries, and whether I can speed the between dip time by using a hair dryer periodically. But I want all the solvent to have evaporated first. I'm allergic to flash fires and explosions. Edited October 11, 2014 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Mark, There's not a pill you can take for your allergies?..lol..Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Hey Ben, I use this "semi-regularly" I've had some in a canning jar for almost a year and it has not degraded at all. Also I have not needed to use biloxygen (spelling?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Hey Ben, I use this "semi-regularly" I've had some in a canning jar for almost a year and it has not degraded at all. Also I have not needed to use biloxygen (spelling?) Thanks Cougar. Swore I was finished trying out new top coats, but may have to give this a try. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Other than the smell...and the 2 week cure time this stuff is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Other than the smell...and the 2 week cure time this stuff is great. Have you tried to speed up the recoat and curing time with a hair dryer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Other than the smell...and the 2 week cure time this stuff is great. Have you noticed if the baits continue to smell during the 2 week curing time and if so how bad would you say it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Other than the smell, this stuff is easy to use, so far. I did my dipping outside, and brought the samples back into my garage once they'd stopped dripping to dry over my work bench. There is a definite solvent smell when you open the can and dip the lure, but it goes away almost completely once the lure is hard and handleable, in about an hour. I dipped three test pieces today, a plain piece of bare PVC trimboard, a PVC crank that had already been painted and top coated with SC9000 interior urethane, and a 1.5 squarebill plastic knockoff, again painted and top coated with urethane. I hit them all with a hair dryer twice, and redipped them after 4 hours, with no wrinkling or other problems. They were all dry to the touch and handleable in an hour, but I waited the minimum recommended (4 hours) before recoating. I let them all drip back into the can. and removed the drips from the lure bottoms with my finger, and scraped it back into the can, too, to try and give it a worst case test. I'll know more later today. Right now, I'm betting I could fish them tomorrow. They felt dry and hard after the first four hours. This stuff is designed for coating concrete, which has residual moisture in it all the time. I'm betting that residual moisture, plus the weight of a car driving on it, is why they say wait 48 hours before using the coated surface. My experience with Glaze and Seal, a similar masonry coating, leads me to believe they err on the side of caution, in terms of curing time. Once it's clear and hard, it's good for light foot traffic. But don't recoat until it is truly clear. If you put it on too thick, it will show a blueish haze that will never go away. I'm going to put hooks on the 1.5 squarebill and fish it tomorrow, so I can see how it holds up. If it holds up okay, I'll paint a couple of test lures this coming week with Createx and top coat them with it, with no SC9000 urethane coating, to see if it affects the paint. Fingers crossed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 There is a faint smell after it is done curing...this is eliminated by rinsing the bait No Mark, not tried a hair dryer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Thanks Cougar. And I swore trying new top coats was over. Shows how much I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 There is a faint smell after it is done curing...this is eliminated by rinsing the bait No Mark, not tried a hair dryer Yesterday I fished the lure I dipped on the day before. I dipped it twice, four hours between dips, and hit it with a hair dryer after each dip had dried to the touch. The lure held up fine yesterday, even after it spent most of the day on the deck in the hot sun. I just went out and checked it, and it's good, and hard as a rock. This week I'm going to do a dip of a painted lure, with no other top coat, to see how it reacts with Createx-type water-based acrylic paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I'm going to start another topic for additional info. On AC1315 top coat.It will help with the search feature here .Any other discussion for this top coat should go there..I should have done this much earlier...Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I'm going to start another topic for additional info. On AC1315 top coat.It will help with the search feature here .Any other discussion for this top coat should go there..I should have done this much earlier...Nathan You're such a buzz kill! Hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Lol!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) After the cure wipe your lures with anise oil Hang it in the air couple hours . No the toad is not dead yet . Edited October 15, 2014 by toadfrog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Hey Toadfrog, Glad to see your still around and haven't " croaked"...sorry..I just had to go there!!..lol...Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
