FLIPPY Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 What's the difference between a laminate plate and dual injection is it a different look?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinfool Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 The laminate plate allows you to not need the blending block and will give you more consistent laminate results because you will shoot one side of the mold, remove the spruce and laminate plate and then shoot the mold again filling the other side of the cavity or cavities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPPY Posted August 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Bassinfool,I understand,,,thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluetickhound Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 I dont yet have a twinjector but having used laminate plates i believe the bond between colors would be better with the twinjector. With the laminate plates I have it is possible to pull the layers apart as the plastic cools while I'm changing out the plate for the upper half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 The bond with the twinjector is probably better, however, using the twin injector has some challenges in itself. Running two Pyrex cups is a PITA. Working with two presto pots is a lot better but then the blending block can be a challenge too. It's nothing you can't overcome, especially with an extra set of hands, but shooting one color at a time is easier for me. YMMV... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) little video I made. Guess I cant link u tube. Edited August 27, 2013 by Baitjunkys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) Man, you make that look easy! I'm just a hobby pourer, so I use POP molds and a Cabela's BBQ injector to make my baits. When I'm doing a laminate with my two part POP molds, I heat both colors at the same time in the microwave to 340-350. I hand pour the first half, and then I put the second color back in the microwave for 20 seconds+- while the first color cools enough not to run when I turn the mold up to vertical. Tipping it slowly tells me pretty quickly if it's cool enough. I put the two halves of the mold together, and then inject the second color. If my second color is 340-350, the two colors bond. I check the temp before I inject, and reheat if needed. Edited August 27, 2013 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 The Baitjunky twinjector does make it look easy. I really like the blending block with the holder on it. For me that's the challenging part and an improvement over the BassTackle twinjector. The BassTackle blending block doesn't have the holder so when you shoot you have to hold the injector and the blending block together. Then we have to transfer it all from mold to mold to shoot the baits. That's the challenge I have with BassTackles equipment. Nice design Leonard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipt Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 twin injector is in my future at some point, but for now pouring 1/2 at a time worms fine, havent had any bonding issues at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Thanks I guess the video is showing then. My goal in the future is one potthat holds both colors so a temp difference is no concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane D Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 both work fine.if the molds are warm and plastic hot i have no issues withthe bond using the lam plates.but i use twinjector morw because its faster and the lines are more natural of a blend.twinjector does take getting use to though. both do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Thanks I guess the video is showing then. My goal in the future is one potthat holds both colors so a temp difference is no concern. The fundamental problem with that will be that its not the temp, but the viscosity of the plastic that needs to be the same and depending on the colours used the temp difference needed to achieve the same viscosity can be a fairly wide difference in some cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPPY Posted August 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Baitjunkie,,that's awesome!! You guys,,I thought I was a pouring freak,,lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Thank you. If you havent seen bears shooting star search for it on you tube. There is several ways to accomplish a laminate. I got laminate plates I shoot as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landry Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Could I do a laminate on an open pour drop shot bait by letting it sit for a minute and then pouring the second color on top of it? I am hoping yes is the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane D Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 yes thats how we stil hand pour them. But i would suggest the mold be pretty warm to keep the cold crack lunes frim showing up and make sure your temp of second color is at least 330degrees and first color has cooled a lttle but dont wait to long before the second color or else it wont bond correctly and peel off. i would also drop them in some water immediatly after pulling them out of the molds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landry Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 How long do I wait before adding the second color? Thanks for the info:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane D Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 just depends on how hot your plastic is in the first color. i would figure no more than a few seconds. You can use a gridle to keep the molds warm as you pour laminates to help with cold cracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landry Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 What do u mean by cold cracks?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane D Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Where the two colors come together due to differant temps can make a line or crack looking line on the bait.i always heard them called cold cracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landry Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Ok. Thanks for all the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane D Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 If you have any one piece open molds, just pour one layer the length of the bait, give it a second or two and finish pouring the bait and you will probably see what im talking about even using the same color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landry Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallmouthaholic Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 The Shooting star System from Bear's will give you consistent laminates. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5Xa03QAhnY Laminating plates and/or blending blocks have their own special caveats. If you can't afford the system ,then save the frustration and cost of trying to produce your own laminates with the aforementioned alternatives and buy laminated worms in the package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) Is the shooting start not basicly two injectors with a blending block attached? Edited August 31, 2013 by Baitjunkys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
