RSNeely Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Since you cant buy a mold like the Reaction Beaver, can I make my own or are there legal issues with that if im caught? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) Id doesn't matter what reasoning is given as to why, If you copy a patented bait, you are violating that patent. My take on the whole thing is if you want that particular bait, buy it, if you want something better then make it. Edited December 15, 2014 by DaveMc1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskyGary Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 It centerns on money. As long as you do not sell them for cash, you can make them. So yes you can make anything out there to use or trade or give away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) It centerns on money. As long as you do not sell them for cash, you can make them. So yes you can make anything out there to use or trade or give away! This is one of the biggest myths concerning patents, It does not matter if you sell the baits or not, just the mere act of copying the patented product violates the patent. I you make a pop mold of RI's beaver and make 10 baits for your self, then they send you a cease and desist you must comply or you can be taken to court on a patent violation. Edited December 15, 2014 by DaveMc1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 daves right , but if you do it for yourself and keep your mouth closed ..you win.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSNeely Posted December 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Is it just the RI's beaver i can't duplicate? What about Strike Kings Rodent? It does have Patent Pending on the packaging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 There are quite a few baits that have been patented, it is a long process to get a patent and to protect their product a lot of companies will advertised that their product is patent pending, they are still protected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longhorn Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Do an eBay search for "soft plastic mold". There are usually some Beaver molds for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Do an eBay search for "soft plastic mold". There are usually some Beaver molds for sale. You'll pay through the nose though at least for the aluminum ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipt Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 to be honest, those baits might be the most popular, but i think you'll find that knock offs or anything similar will work just as well if not better. if you want to copy an exact bait using POP or any other molding material, do it for yourself and keep it to yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinfool Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 I have a LinMar beaver mold lying around somewhere I haven't used in years. They got in trouble a while back from RI for selling the mold I have. Thing is, I have knock offs that catch just as many fish so I have no reason to copy a bait. Part of the reason I don't know where that mold is haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNC Molds N Stuff Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) In my opinion it has some flaws actually. One of the biggest in my opinion is that the body often fouls the hook sets. Its almost as bad as a Palm Tree. Years ago I made a prototype with a ribbed body like a ring worm (except closer together) with the same overall profile as the Sweet Beaver and a slightly different tail. Long before the Missile D-Bomb which is a perfect example of the concept. When you squeeze it the ribs lay over and compress allowing for a much better hook up ratio than the solid body of the Beaver. I think if it hadn't been for the difficulties with hookups on the Beaver and other thick body solid baits the current trend for snelled straight shanks hooks for flipping would never have gotten so popular. Trust me. When you look at a bait you can almost always come up with something different that is just as good or better if you think about it long enough. In regards to the original post: The fact is that you would have to make and use thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of baits for your own use to break even. That's if you value your time at zero, and that is time you could have spent fishing instead of making baits. Sure the mold (if you can find one) is covered by 20 bags of baits, but plastic, color, flake, heating source, mixing stuff, and mistakes till you get it right all cost too. Edited December 19, 2014 by Bob La Londe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...