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Amma Bamma Baits

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Stoped in at Amma Bamma Baits last Sunday and had a chat with Bill Loony in his shop learned alot from just talking to him. He's got some great looking baits.

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I have written Bill several times and he has generally been kind enough to respond to my questions...within reason of course. He definitely wouldn't give me any "details".

Jed

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The only thing that matters with these baits, the weighting scenario, depth, placement, number.

Jed

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Some are just unwilling to share their secrets.

Example: Is there something better than Etex and Devcon to finish our baits? You bet there is...will the source of knowledge tell us? NO!!

Why?...Fear of competition? I don't know, but I do know there are a K-Zillion fisherman out there in this world, and NO one person could possibly service them all.

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The guy who owns Amma Bama, Bill Looney, is not a user on this board to my knowledge. He seems to be a gentleman however. I have written literally dozens of bait-makers over the last year asking for information, few will ever take the time to answer. Those that do will only give you the most basic of information, wood type, hook size, etc. I have written Bill Looney twice and each time he answered me, to me this says something about the guy. He didn't give details about his bait-making process and I didn't ask for them. I do have much respect for the guy tho and hope to meet him someday.

Jed

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There was a 1/2" inch hole drilled 1" deep at the front hook hanger. Thats it!!! I could not get two alike this way to save my butt.Some were fine, some floated, some sank like rocks.Don't know if they are still weighted like this. I now weight mine like Cobbs and HR's. Spots of lead throughout the bait. It just makes them more consistent. Only problem is you have to be careful about getting into the wire. My baits are wire through.

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The weight I just described was for the Striker jerkbait. Sorry for the confusion.Idon't know how the other bait is weighted. :oops:

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I would guess the Amma Bama has two pieces of lead just in front of the belly hook and one near the tail. The reason I say two holes near the front as I know Bill uses basswood which is quite buoyant and it's hard to get by with one piece of lead in the front. I am not familiar with the "striker" baits. I'm curious, in weighting your baits like the HR, do you use one long section of lead as a center piece like HR does?

Jed

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Riverman Bill puts his weight in two spots. the frist one is where the wire hanger holds the hook and the sec is right behind it. He has a 24 step methed to makeing his baits. And he told me he has no secrets that he is not willing to tell. I know he is willing to help people. I'm doing a story for Muskie Imc. mag. And will send you a copy of the mag when it comes out if it will help. I took about 60 photos of Bill working in his shop on the baits for the story. So it will be a good photo story.

Thanks

338muskie

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I would love to see that story and would be happy to pay for the magazine and postage, thank you. Congrats on the story too!

Now let me get this straight, a hole right at the wire hanger? Are you saying the wire goes through the weight? The second just behind it...hmmm. I have tried weighting baits just at the balance point and it does work even tho many builders will tell you it won't. Actually weight just in the center of the bait makes the most sense to me as you would think the weight would then act as a fulcrom by which the ends could swing back and forth on....like a merry-go-round, there's a word I bet this forum has never seeen, lol. Many of the European builders take a totally different approach, placing lead at the head and tail of the bait. I have had success with this approach as well. The bait in the video I made is somewhere between these two designs. That's why I asked your weighting in the HR style. They have one long weight at or near the balance point followed by a series of shallow holes extending front and back from there. Tried to post a pic of the xray but for some reason it won't let me today.

Jed

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