mark poulson Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 I am wondering if the formula for plastisol has changed in the last 10+ years. I pulled out some old Bass Pro floating worms to use as tails on my 2 piece rats, and left them attached for two months in my tackle compartment. When I pulled them out to tie up for tomorrow, where the worms had been in contact with the rat body the plastic had softened/melted the AC1315 top coat and the Createx paint. I haven't had that experience, so far, with anything else I've dipped in the AC1315, so I'm wondering if the old worms are a different formulation, or if it's just from leaving them rigged for so long. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowFISH Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Mark, Plastics (Plastisol) just always seem to react against other things like paint/urethanes. I recently made 4 carbon fiber reel handles and have been clear coating to get a ice smooth finish and gloss shine.... my 4 year old came by and put a swimbait I had on the table across them - I found that 1 day later and it had melted the clear coat down to the carbon fiber... not happy to say the least. I haven't found a rhyme or reason for when baits melt stuff and when they don't..... I'd have an old creme worm laying across the top of my keyboard for months as I'm working on a new bait and been measuring the tail - yet I put a grub I poured there too and it started melting a hole in the keyboard in less than a week???? Go figure. Maybe put a bit of epoxy over the contact point.... epoxy seems to be pretty "neutral" to things. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRammit Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Huh???.... Ive never heard of this... Just regular ol plastic??... Melts stuff??? Keyboards?????..... They dont seem to bother plastic bags or tackle boxes.... What other items would be worrisome around plastic?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 All plastic formulations are not the same, they use different products to achieve the same end result. I use to use Mf plastic and if I did not use laminated bags it would react to the one I had over time. Now I use Spikeit plastic and no reaction to the same less expensive bag. It's reaction to certain plastics it come in contact still happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 I can remember when i was a kid and worms like the manns jelly worm would melt the shelves and or compartments of the tackle boxes, We would wrap our worms in tin foil .then as years went buy they must have started using different plastic to make tackle boxes , it doesn't happen now to the tackle boxes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 I can remember when i was a kid and worms like the manns jelly worm would melt the shelves and or compartments of the tackle boxes, We would wrap our worms in tin foil .then as years went buy they must have started using different plastic to make tackle boxes , it doesn't happen now to the tackle boxes. I have an old Pemco tackle box in the garage with holes melted in the plastic trays. I had forgotten about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) As far a I know this has all ways been the problem from day 1 .... That is with "Hot Melt" Plastisols. Some have been made with a vinyl that does not have this reaction ... Powder Paint and Epoxy are the only solution when touching some thing that will react and this coating can be applied. ... Certain types of Plastic Boxes from the old days were really bad about this "melting" ... Thank goodness they have change some boxes to a formulation that will not react to "Hot Melt" ... Edited April 26, 2015 by JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 As far a I know this has all ways been the problem from day 1 .... That is with "Hot Melt" Plastisols. Some have been made with a vinyl that does not have this reaction ... Powder Paint and Epoxy are the only solution when touching some thing that will react and this coating can be applied. ... Certain types of Plastic Boxes from the old days were really bad about this "melting" ... Thank goodness they have change some boxes to a formulation that will not react to "Hot Melt" ... I put some Zoom trick worms on another batch of rats and they caused no problems. It's weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 The local Australian made plastic is bad for this, touch anything plastic and it reacts..... can get frustrating if you are messy like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish N Chips Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 I have some lead spires heads I poured. I put on some living rubber skirts,bucktail style. I then added some swimbaits made from lurecraft plastic. The skirts turned to a sticky goo, yuck. My cast and store bought baits will melt through hook packaging trays and bobbers too. I had a old tackle box that the trays would melt, but all my newer boxes are fine. I remember when buying tackle boxes in the 80s they used to be advertised as worm proof/resistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 I'm guessing it's the softener. An old time local pourer here in SoCal told me I could use it to soften my margarine tub top tails (try saying that three times fast) for my swimbaits, so, evidently, it will soften lots of plastics, not just plastisol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 I'm guessing it's the softener. An old time local pourer here in SoCal told me I could use it to soften my margarine tub top tails (try saying that three times fast) for my swimbaits, so, evidently, it will soften lots of plastics, not just plastisol. margarine tub top tails margarine tub top tails margarine tub top tails Couldn't say it worth a darn 3 times, but typed it pretty fast. Does that count? LOL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 margarine tub top tails margarine tub top tails margarine tub top tails Couldn't say it worth a darn 3 times, but typed it pretty fast. Does that count? LOL Question of the day. Do you have to be warped to build your own lures? Answer. No, but it sure helps. Ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Bait makers are just like musicians, Ben. We're all crazy in our own way! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 I'm not talented enough to be a musician Al so I'll just have to be happy being a crazy bait builder. One look in my "reject pile" would be enough to convince anyone of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
