Vodkaman Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Yes, it is important to test exactly how you intend to fish the lure. The addition of hardware at the tow position is changing the tow geometry and accordingly it changes the action. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 In regards to testing definitely fish it as you would fish it normal. I would say most crankers frown upon swivels (as don't use them) and for many snaps even are questionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Travis - it is an interesting point. I wonder how the shop baits are designed and tested. I presume with some kind of quick release which would be the equivalent of a snap release. When I test my baits, usually 12 at a time, I use a home made wire snap, as the commercial snaps are a more difficult to use, but far more secure. A bait that is designed close to the edge, as in the above example, the difference between using a snap and direct tying will be quite noticeable, but in the case of a lure designed well within the tolerance of design, I suspect the difference would be hardly noticeable. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Swivels on the line tie will affect the action because the additional weight so far forward changes the angle of attack. Look how cranks with metal lips require entirely different ballasting, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRammit Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 I guess im so use to using tiny swivels that i havnt noticed a difference in weight/action... I can clearly see how a large swivel would have an effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleriver Posted July 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 All good points here in this discusion. I would like to point out Dave's point about this bait being more sensitive to this change because of design is exactly right. The bait I made in the moment of inertia topic is way less sensitive to these types of changes. For example ,I experimented some with the bill length on that bait and found it's action did not change so much no matter the bib length. I concluded the bait design was much more stable than this one and therefore had a much larger margin for error too thanks in large part to a little bit of engineering. I'll do some video of the this lures action with just split ring but it will be a couple of weeks before I get a chance. Vic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
