PaJay Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Ok I'm not new to pouring jigs and sinkers but I got the new swing jig mold and I'm lost. I can not get the insert or the hook to stay in the 1 oz and 1 1/4 oz. I set them in there but if you breathe they fall out. Someone help me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 If I remember correctly, the hook hangs quite a way over the edge of the mold, and as it hangs over, pulls the wire insert along with the hook out of the cavity. It also depends on what size hook you are using in what cavity. If this is your dilemma, than you can do 2 things to solve this problem. #1, You can lightly tape the hook shank to the mold half, and that will hold it temporarily until you close your mold to pour. #2, Make a small aluminum ledge onto one mold half, to keeep the hook from doing this. Make the aluminum angle or a ledge for the hook to sit on, and then drill/screw it into the bottom of the mold half or countersink a screw into the face below the cavity. I hope this makes sense. I will post a pic when I get home tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Dead Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Hope this helps. 1. Make sure you have the right size of the insert for the mold. Two sizes. 450 for the smaller and the 600 for the larger molds 2. I use a strip of tape backed magnetic strip and attach to the mold. After a couple of squeezes with the hooks in place it makes a groove to keep the hooks still. This assists in holding the hook and the insert in place to pour the lead. The magnetic strip can be grooved with a straight razor as well. I placed mine along the mold, just below the size number. Fits perfect once the grooves are made. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) I made a leveling block from some mdf that I had laying around. It solved my problem. For some reason I can't post a pic. Edited June 29, 2015 by Jig Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaJay Posted June 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 These are all great tips. I forgot to mention that on these larger sizes the inserts even fall into the cavities without hooks on them. I have a lot of molds and have had some issues but I always found a work around. All pics would be greatly appreciated. I think I'm losing my touch, or just losing it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 I put duct tape across the recessed section below the lead cavity. Fold the tape back onto itself so no sticky parts are exposed - forming a "skirt" along the bottom edge. This collapses for easy placement of the mold under the lead pot. when you get the hooks to stop moving the inserts stay put. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Here are some pics. In the 1st one, I used a piece of stn stl, and screwed it to the inside of the mold halves. This keeps my hook straight and in the center of the mold when I close it. The second pic would work better for you, as you do not need the hook to stay in the middle, you only need to support it. So I put a piece of cardboard underneath the duct tape and stuck the duct tape onto the mold half. Lot of ideas that will work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaJay Posted June 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Thanks Cadman. The pics definitely help understand what I need to do. First one looks like a winter project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 My 2 layered board works like Cadman's attached one. The second layer is level with the mold and the hooks stay put. I'm sorry but I can't get the pic to load from photo bucket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaJay Posted June 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 No problem on the pics Jig Man. Just one question though. Do you use just regular Wal Mart duct tape or something special? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Do you use just regular Wal Mart duct tape or something special? PaJay, you can use any kind of duct tape as long as it is sticky. I also found, that if the duct tape is stiffer, you may not need the cardboard. There are different grades of duct tape. Finally like all adhesive tapes, the hotter the mold gets from constant pouring, the more likely the tape will want to un-adhere (is that a word)? Anyway you know what I mean, so you might have to come up with a different solution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapupa Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 You can sit the handle of your needle nose pliers ( that you use to remove the hot jig from the mold) along side the mold. This will give you enough support for the hook to rest on and works for me..,. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaJay Posted June 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 All are great ideas. I think with all the help you guys are giving I'll be able to make something work even take a little advice from each one or combined them. Cadman un-adhere works for mr lol ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 PaJay I just saw a pic from a guy in TN. He just opens a second mold and lays it down to hold the hooks level with the swing mold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaJay Posted July 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 PaJay I just saw a pic from a guy in TN. He just opens a second mold and lays it down to hold the hooks level with the swing mold. Wow Jigman I was checking my mold out last night and thought that might be an option. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) I finally got it via Chrome. I have 2 levels of the mdf. The mold lays on the lower part and the upper part is shown holding the hooks. Edited July 1, 2015 by Jig Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaJay Posted July 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Yep Jig Man that's pretty much what I came up with. Going to try to pour some later today. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaJay Posted July 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 PaJay I just saw a pic from a guy in TN. He just opens a second mold and lays it down to hold the hooks level with the swing mold. Well I finally got to pouring the Swing Jigs. This tip by far worked the bast. That and Franford mold release and I was banging them out. 1/2 to 1 1/4 oz. thanks for all the help !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCBOS Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 I was making swing jigs with the old regular football head jig mold before do-it made one. I used silly puddly to hold in single eyes, without hooks. After powder painting I heated the hook eyes with a candle and opened the hook eye to put it on the jig eye, then closed the hook eye while still hot. Don't forget to then rapid cool it in water or oil to not loose the temper of the hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCBOS Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) Just got a new do-it mold and will be trying it out. I may find it eaiser to tape in the two eyes, then use that technique for hanging the hooks after painting. I'll let everyone know. Edited October 29, 2015 by DUCBOS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saugerman Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 I use a block of wood the same thickness of the mold half , and rest the part of the hook that lays outside of the mold on that. It works great. Have done this on other molds too. Very simple to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Dead Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I used a double sided magnet and made slots for the hooks. Holds them in place very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Dead Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Here is the picture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 WD, you just close the mold with the hook in it to make the slots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 WTH, someone stole my identity! ^^^^^^That's not me^^^^^^^ LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
