Groucho Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 Do injectors work with all injection molds or do some work better in some than others? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ray Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) They are universal. They are 5/8th of a inch in diameter. The only molds I know that take a specific injector are JacobsBaits. You have to buy his injector for his molds. But he does sell a adapter. Edited November 21, 2015 by Big Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Regular injectors work fine in Jacobs tapered molds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Posted November 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 So what features should I look for in an injector. Are some better than others. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I bought ones that the nozzle just slips into. If I were doing it again I'd buy some that had a locking mechanism so I couldn't shoot them into my nor por cups like I sometimes do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) I bought the Bass Tackle 6 oz. injector, because I am a hobby pourer, and this size is just right for pouring a few molds at a time. The nozzle has a turn and release mechanism, so it doesn't p.o.p. off when I pour, but it's really easy to remove to clean. I'm sure there are others that work fine, but this is the one I use and like. Edited November 21, 2015 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogbaits Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Just a quick note I bought 3 different injectors from basstackle over the years and each one was supposed to be 5/8th,well they are but not any piece from one will interchange with the other,meaning the nozzles will not fit each other,small size differences,you would think they would be the same but they are not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Just a quick note I bought 3 different injectors from basstackle over the years and each one was supposed to be 5/8th,well they are but not any piece from one will interchange with the other,meaning the nozzles will not fit each other,small size differences,you would think they would be the same but they are not! Nope, they aren't at all. The parts that fit to the barrel or tubing are built to fit that exact tube. I don't believe the tubing they are using is perfectly true (none is I don't believe) so they hone out each piece and then the plunger, nozzle etc all has to be fit to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I would call it more of a evolution. From the beginning they had tubes that were not true and varied a lot. So they honed them out to make the tolerances better but then all the parts were custom fit as Dave said. Now they back bore the tip of the tube so the tips are all the same. So now all the tips should be the same and the part that fits in to the molds should be just under 5/8" so it will fit easy. Don't want to tight of a fit there or it is miserable to move from mold to mold. The top cap has undergone a lengthening to help with a binding feel with the twinjector. That's. The reason they don't offer parts to make your own twinjector they are fit before they go out the door. I have many different injectors from them and like that they continue to improve on a great design. I was the one who came up with the locking pin design in the first place and they embraced it to become standard on all of there injectors. Learn and make it better is forward thinking at its finest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I like the Bait Junkies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I would call it more of a evolution. From the beginning they had tubes that were not true and varied a lot. So they honed them out to make the tolerances better but then all the parts were custom fit as Dave said. Now they back bore the tip of the tube so the tips are all the same. So now all the tips should be the same and the part that fits in to the molds should be just under 5/8" so it will fit easy. Don't want to tight of a fit there or it is miserable to move from mold to mold. The top cap has undergone a lengthening to help with a binding feel with the twinjector. That's. The reason they don't offer parts to make your own twinjector they are fit before they go out the door. I have many different injectors from them and like that they continue to improve on a great design. I was the one who came up with the locking pin design in the first place and they embraced it to become standard on all of there injectors. Learn and make it better is forward thinking at its finest. I remember your post about that Frank. Good people are good people, and you are obviously a good person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I like the Bait Junkies Maybe you could explain why? He might want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 i have four basstackle 2 are for my twinjector and the other 2 are used if a buddy stops by while im making baits . i put them to work to....not that i have alot of molds but i just dont let them stand around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ray Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Baitjunkys injector has a nice handle you can hold while injecting. U wont have to hold the injector and burn your hand. Edited November 22, 2015 by Big Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Baitjunkys injector has a nice handle you can hold while injecting. U wont have to hold the injector and burn your hand. Dude, that's why I gave you those gloves! Hahaha Actually, Bob La Londe gave me an injector he made years ago, and he had put some plumbing pipe insulation around it to insulate it. I'm sure that would work for a bigger injector. Just keep a gap between the nozzle and the insulation, so it doesn't go down into the hot plastic. Edited November 22, 2015 by mark poulson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNC Molds N Stuff Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Mark, That wasn't me. It might have been Rick Jacobs. He used to do the pipe wrap thing. I gave you a mold that makes a worm like a senko merged with a twin tail grub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Bait Junkys is similar to the Basstackle which also is very good. Both are thick walled and have a locking tip which is why I reccomend it to beginners. The BJ has a handle as mentioned that i like. I still find myself mainley using the Bears. I have conquered to tip falling off with experience but other dont like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Mark, That wasn't me. It might have been Rick Jacobs. He used to do the pipe wrap thing. I gave you a mold that makes a worm like a senko merged with a twin tail grub. Bob, A small injector came with the mold (which I still pour). Have you wondered where that injector has been all these years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 i dont understand the need of a pilot diameter on the injector itself....why not just a full ball radius on the tip? to many times my injector stuck in the molds and had to pull it out....do-it mold basstackle injector ..I took the tip in the shop and turned .025 off the pilot diameter..works fine now...I would say not all molds are the same I had trouble with a bears mold sticking to....but I think the full radius tip would work better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNC Molds N Stuff Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Bob, A small injector came with the mold (which I still pour). Have you wondered where that injector has been all these years? Hmmm... post a picture of it. I made a few injectors, but as far as I can recall I've only given away two of them. I sent one of my 9.9oz to Jadon in Australia, because a couple of the molds I made for him were to big to fill with the 6oz he had, and I made a smaller one for Harold at Sportsmen's to go with the original Weird Bug I made for him. The rest of my injectors are all accounted for on the shelf as far as I can recall. Maybe I made two of those little ones like the one I gave to Harold. I've never made injectors for sale because of the difficult consistency issues others have mentioned. Even extruded tube is only close to the same if it comes from the same extruder at the mill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNC Molds N Stuff Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 To the OP. Jacobs current injector is cross compatible, and most of his current molds will fill with a 5/8. His older ones had a small sprue and would only fill with a cone tip. Bears, Bass Tackle, Del-Mart, etc, etc all use a standard "5/8" except most make the cylinder slightly undersize for clearance. The only recent exception that I am aware of is the Ultra Molds Shooting Star which was listed as having a 3/4 tip, but could be ordered with 5/8 on request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 This is it: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNC Molds N Stuff Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 This is it: small injector.jpg I can assure you that unless somebody was carrying it in their coat pocket that injector has never been in my shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 I can assure you that unless somebody was carrying it in their coat pocket that injector has never been in my shop. Well then, another mystery I have to solve. But, first, where did I put my keys? Hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Well then, another mystery I have to solve. But, first, where did I put my keys? Hahaha I sent you that injector. That was a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
