barr5150 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Anyone ever try installing the line tie horizontal? I'm curious if there is an advantage or if your even able to tune the plug? http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af125/barr5150/horizontal%20line%20tie_zps3dji2zuh.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 The ability to tune the swim of the plug is lost, as side adjustments are more difficult. You are more likely to crack the topcoat with the effort required for tuning. I mount my belly hooks laterally, as this allows me to mount the hooks in such a way to reduce hook rash. Dave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Dave, could a horizontal line tie help make the baits run truer? I put my line tie horizontal on the glide baits I made, because the example I was working from had a horizontal line tie. Since there was no diving bill, I guess it didn't make any difference in how the lures ran. Also jointed swim baits, prop baits, and Whopper Ploppers work well with a horizontal line tie. But I've never tried it with a billed bait. I guess the next crank I make with a sst screweye for a line tie, I'll have to remember to try it, since it won't affect the PVC when I water test it. Edited February 17, 2016 by mark poulson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Dave is right, Tuning it for left or right movement will be difficult now however bending the eye down now will be much easier...That will sometimes give your bait a bit more " Thump" to it..Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) It occurred to me that the only cranks I make with screweye line ties are shallow runners and wake baits, so I don't know how much of a true test turning the line tie in one of them would be. I think it might make the bait more prone to catch weeds, but that's just a guess. Edited February 17, 2016 by mark poulson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Mark - I have not built any wake or WTD baits, but I would agree with you. With lipped cranks, the lateral balance is critical and requires fine tuning. Nathan - in early prototypes, I make the eye horizontal and a few mm longer, so that I can explore the vertical eye position options. I always make a few extra bodies for this purpose. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal cranker Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I didn't get any of that builders cranks until he made models with a verticle line tie. Those are old models he has changed his line ties now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barr5150 Posted February 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Gotcha Mike. I threw it out there just to make sure I wasn't missing something. I'd like to think those Japanese builders make stuff so perfect it doesn't need to be tuned but it's just not possible. BTW - nice profile pic...SH4 is next on my list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal cranker Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Love me some SH4! Can't wait to see your version. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) I have used it on swim baits to 'free them up' a bit, also on twitch style and walk the dog baits, (anything that moves sideways)--as everyone is saying, the probability of cracking the epoxy when tuning is a big possibility. Pete Edited February 18, 2016 by hazmail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 To me anything horizontal causes drag. That is just a bad word to me when designing or making a bait. Skeeter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwfflipper Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 To me anything horizontal causes drag. That is just a bad word to me when designing or making a bait. Skeeter you still around? lol hows NC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 TU just can't seem to get rid of me. NC is just as beautiful as always. Skeeter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemmy Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 TU just can't seem to get rid of me. NC is just as beautiful as always. Skeeter And we are the better for it Jeff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 And we are the better for it Jeff! Amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwfflipper Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 TU just can't seem to get rid of me. NC is just as beautiful as always. Skeeter yea but are you catching any bass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 No Sir, we have had tons of rain, snow and ice her over the past 3 weeks. High Rock is a mud ball. Water temp is 46 deg. However, I do expect to get out in the next week or so. IT'S TIME !! Bless you all. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
