MikePaintsBaits Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I Cannot Locate Any Of the Mega Bass S Crank Blanks , Anyone Have Any To Part With 1.5 or 2.5's ? Thanks Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venutian_Lures Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Not sure if it was made public information, but they won't be available to us painters anymore, as megabass has put a patent in on that bait design. I am selfishly hoarding all the ones I have previously purchased for that reason ;P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I am surprised this doesn't become mainstream with the number of people selling knock offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 I am surprised this doesn't become mainstream with the number of people selling knock offs. What doesn't become mainstream? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 I am surprised more crank baits aren't patented to reduce knock offs. Especially the high end stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingerBaits Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Here is why they dont... Read the abstract... that is 3/4 of the fishing lures. Abstract A lure has a lip properly slanted down forward which is attached in a neighborhood of a front end portion of a lure body that is formed to have an external appearance imitating a small fish. A head section of the lure body is formed to have a tapered thin edge shape in top view. 1. A fishing lure with a lure body formed to have an external appearance imitating a small fish, the fishing lure comprising: a lip properly slanted down forward, the lip being attached to a neighborhood of a front end portion of the lure body, wherein a head section of the lure body is formed to have a tapered thin edge shape in top view. 2. The fishing lure according to claim 1, wherein a recessed portion is formed in an upper surface of the head section of the lure body. 3. The fishing lure according to claim 1, wherein a base of the lip joined to the lure body is formed to continue linearly from a front end portion of the lip and is joined as it is to the lure body. 4. The fishing lure according to claim 2, wherein a base of the lip joined to the lure body is formed to continue linearly from a front end portion of the lip and is joined as it is to the lure body. 5. The fishing lure according to claim 1, wherein a base of the lip joined to the lure body is formed in a manner that both sides of the base are raised properly upward. 6. The fishing lure according to claim 2, wherein a base of the lip joined to the lure body is formed in a manner that both sides of the base are raised properly upward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Not trying to patent a crank bait..... patenting a "unique,novel, blah, blah, blah" design or feature causes that crank bait to perform is the ticket. Soft plastics have been figuring that out. Historically has not been worth the effort to patent but things may be changing in some companies eyes. Will have to see if we start to see more patented designs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Coming up with a lure you can patent is harder than coming up with an origional country song. In my opinion, Dale SW has outlined in this forum all the elements to incorporate in a lure to make it hunt. In my opinion, the S crank copied him to get it to do what it does - HUNT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 The feature that makes a lure hunt, namely the lip length to body ratio, cannot be patented. It cannot be copied either. It can only be found by experimentation and the knowledge of what you are looking for. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 I am surprised more crank baits aren't patented to reduce knock offs. Especially the high end stuff. They're going to be knocked off anyways if they can even get a patent. GW never bothered to try and patent the Senko. AS far as I know the only companies that send out Cease and Desist letters and will go after somebody is Reaction Innovations and Zoom....especially zoom. Even to the garage bait maker.....They lurk right here as well as steal ideas. I've seen several pics posted and then copied by the big guys over the years.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venutian_Lures Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 They're going to be knocked off anyways if they can even get a patent. GW never bothered to try and patent the Senko. AS far as I know the only companies that send out Cease and Desist letters and will go after somebody is Reaction Innovations and Zoom....especially zoom. Even to the garage bait maker.....They lurk right here as well as steal ideas. I've seen several pics posted and then copied by the big guys over the years.... how nice of them -,- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 They're going to be knocked off anyways if they can even get a patent. GW never bothered to try and patent the Senko. AS far as I know the only companies that send out Cease and Desist letters and will go after somebody is Reaction Innovations and Zoom....especially zoom. Even to the garage bait maker.....They lurk right here as well as steal ideas. I've seen several pics posted and then copied by the big guys over the years.... Yes patented things will get knocked off and the sun will rise..... My point is simply what having a patent will allow them to do legally. What it can do is stop guys from selling patented knock off baits blanks and then those repainting and selling patented knock offs. Cease and desist letters sure those easy enough to deal with as the individual stops their action. The next step is the big one as it will allow them, if they see fit, to go after guys for damages. Interesting reading.... http://www.ncpc.org/topics/intellectual-property-theft/fake-consumer-goods-1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted July 10, 2016 Report Share Posted July 10, 2016 Yes patented things will get knocked off and the sun will rise..... My point is simply what having a patent will allow them to do legally. What it can do is stop guys from selling patented knock off baits blanks and then those repainting and selling patented knock offs. Cease and desist letters sure those easy enough to deal with as the individual stops their action. The next step is the big one as it will allow them, if they see fit, to go after guys for damages. Interesting reading.... http://www.ncpc.org/topics/intellectual-property-theft/fake-consumer-goods-1 Let's call a spade a spade.....You don't like people who paint knock off blanks....you never did and voiced your opinion about it many times. You think they have no business even existing and if you don't/can't make baits from scratch you don't belong here. Other than the S crank which has a patent pending I believe and not a patent, a dollar to a doughnut says you can't tell me 3 common KO's that "ARTISTS" paint are patented........haters will always hate...Lucky Craft who i believe made the first of the square bills have been copied by every major company in existence. Those baits as well as the KO's are all made in China. A few high end Japanese baits are produced in Japanese factories.....Everybody has different abilities, preferences and niche's....why don't you just let everybody be and go on with what you are doing? You don't paint KO's, so if it don't apply, just let it fly........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted July 10, 2016 Report Share Posted July 10, 2016 Let's call a spade a spade.....You don't like people who paint knock off blanks....you never did and voiced your opinion about it many times. You think they have no business even existing and if you don't/can't make baits from scratch you don't belong here. Other than the S crank which has a patent pending I believe and not a patent, a dollar to a doughnut says you can't tell me 3 common KO's that "ARTISTS" paint are patented........haters will always hate...Lucky Craft who i believe made the first of the square bills have been copied by every major company in existence. Those baits as well as the KO's are all made in China. A few high end Japanese baits are produced in Japanese factories.....Everybody has different abilities, preferences and niche's....why don't you just let everybody be and go on with what you are doing? You don't paint KO's, so if it don't apply, just let it fly........ I don't believe there are any common knock offs being sold that are currently protected by a patent but could be wrong. I wouldn't think most would knowingly do so due to the very ramifications discussed earlier. Outside of Megabass (only a few of their lures) not for sure if many companies are patenting hard baits at this time as I figure the cost in doing so simply isn't worth it and will take some creativity. Square bills date bake to the late 70's (Fred Young) and during that time were all hand made baits coming from TN, KY, and Arkansas areas (in general). We should be able to discuss topics without a need to personally attack anyone or make claims of what a person believes or doesn't believe. I never have liked or disliked a person based off as something as silly as painting a bait, making a bait, etc.... is a ridiculous metric to use and definitely not something any sane person would use to determine if a person should ever exist or not. Everyone belongs here, doesn't matter about skill set abilities or what they do in regards to making baits or even if they make a bait. I agree that several that paint are artists as an individual can paint or one can't, what the "canvas" isn't relative. To truly hate something it just takes too much effort in this short life we have. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Like I tell my girls... It's ok, you are both pretty. I have learned a lot from both of you on this site. I didn't see anything in those comments I considered disparaging to those painting blanks. Even if someone does, they have a right to that opinion. We don't have to feel bad because someone disagrees with us. I will continue to do what I consider right. For me that includes both painting plastic lures - some of them knock offs that are better than the origionals. It also includes designing my own wooden baits and working with others proven designs. The different viewpoints and experiences posted here are very enlightening. I have posted some ideas that were way off track and was happy to be corrected before I really messed things up. I find I cannot learn without making or admitting mistakes. That is why I love this site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
