SRJ Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 I followed up on your post having never heard of Sweat Beaver and low and behold I have it made by DO-IT they call it Beaver Style Bug. Seems to be little honor among thieves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 I followed up on your post having never heard of Sweat Beaver and low and behold I have it made by DO-IT they call it Beaver Style Bug. Seems to be little honor among thieves. Yeah but but Del down right copied every detail DO-IT has a not so quite knock-off and of course they cannot call it sweet beaver! I'm even surprised that they would use the term "beaver style" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 I've heard so much negativity about del i'll sit back and watch..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNC Molds N Stuff Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 I was under the impression that RI had Del make their original sweet beaver molds. When they started they were just a couple miles away from his shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 That may be so not sure about that never heard that version and its been talked about for years but if I remember he was selling them on his site and stopped because of some sort of cease and desist order when they do come up for sale some have sold for much more than his selling price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNC Molds N Stuff Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Franz (I think that was his name. I only ever talked to him once.) said he had a patent on the Sweet Beaver. The Reaction Innovations site shows a patent number on the bottom of the page. He sent out lots of cease and desist notices. "SWEET BEAVER PATENT # D515, 176S" I just tried to look it up and couldn't find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Andre Moore owns RI and the patents on the beaver. I am almost certain Zorn Molds cut their molds, if not there have been a couple other companies that were concentrating on production molds around that time as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Andre Moore owns RI and the patents on the beaver. I am almost certain Zorn Molds cut their molds, if not there have been a couple other companies that were concentrating on production molds around that time as well. Yep thats the way I remember it being told, he/they were pretty adamant even about the word beaver if it applied to plastic baits if I remember those discussions back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Yep thats the way I remember it being told, he/they were pretty adamant even about the word beaver if it applied to plastic baits if I remember those discussions back then. Well, he does own the trademark on "Beaver" as it relates to fishing lures. I would pursue it as well if I owned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) Helps out a lot when your wife is an attorney. Sure keeps the cost down. Edited November 21, 2016 by Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Helps out a lot when your wife is an attorney. Sure keeps the cost down. It definitely would LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 I think if someone invents/develops something unique and gets a patent/copyright, they should be protected from unlicensed copiers making money off it. Otherwise it's just theft. Fair's fair. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 I think if someone invents/develops something unique and gets a patent/copyright, they should be protected from unlicensed copiers making money off it. Otherwise it's just theft. Fair's fair. I agree Mark. There's a lot of time and effort that goes into getting a patent. Not to mention how much it costs. Ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Dead Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 If only everyone would play fair. Make something so great that people will knock it off and you go broke trying to defend it in court. If only everyone would play fair. Make something so great that people will knock it off and you go broke trying to defend it in court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-wayne Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 http://www.google.ca/patents/US6753004 This is an example of Patent trolling where no product has been created but the idea of potential products are under patent restriction. Even though I know this is smart I can't help feeling this form of patenting is a bit underhanded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryanmc Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 I think if someone invents/develops something unique and gets a patent/copyright, they should be protected from unlicensed copiers making money off it. Otherwise it's just theft. Fair's fair. Ever wonder why Yamamoto never patented the senko, he just copyrighted the name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Here is the main one in Question. Even with the free family legal services, Only reason to let a patent expire, Is because you cant enforce it for some reason... https://patents.google.com/patent/US7484327B2/en 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Here is the main one in Question. Even with the free family legal services, Only reason to let a patent expire, Is because you cant enforce it for some reason... https://patents.google.com/patent/US7484327B2/en There is no honor among thieves....or attorneys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Ron Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Do not ask me what year is was because I honestly don't remember (somewhere around 2009. Del had his annual sale. Cant remember if it was a buy one get one deal or a buy one get half off deal. What I remember was ordering $1500 in molds. I was told because of the nature of my order being (1 of this mold, 2 of this mold, 3 of this one, etc) that he would need a month to fill, 1 month later no molds. By his next November sale, I had only received 1/2 of my order and was sent along with a nasty email a check for about 1/2 of what I was owed. If I have a bad experience with a company, I usually would not put it out there for public review. However, the year worth of lies and not getting for reimbursement of my funds allows me to at least say I will not do business with him again.. I will say he had or has excellent molds. But the work ethics and customer service were poor. Ron 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
