Mad Moose Baits Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 OK, on the way into work this morning I thought I would pour some horsehead jigs tonight. Now I know people use foil etc for the swivel so you can heat and paint the jighead and keep the swivel turning freely, but I thought "there has to be a better way" and that way would be a tube form over the swivel. Now heat shrink would work but then you have to cut it off etc and other soft materials would melt with the heat. Hard tubes wouldn't work either. So here is my possible solution: pour some RTV silicone in a straw and let it cure. Cut it in lengths that will cover your swivel. Poke a hole through it lengthwise with a heavy needle. You can now slide it onto the swivel, heat up the bait, paint and then pinch the silicone to remove it. The main worry would be it will remove a bunch from the jig head itself too. The silicone can definitely handle the heat. Please discuss! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 That sure sounds like it may work, MadMoose. If you leave some gap between your RTV and the jighead, the powder would cover all your jighead and not leave a large spot uncovered. The problem I see with it is the straw will melt from the heat but a guy could fashion something from some small aluminum conduit, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fshng2 Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 That would work but why not use silicone tubing as it is readily available? Check size you will need but it is available by ID from 1mm, 2mm, 3mm etc. I would recommend getting a size slightly smaller than the swivel . The tubing will stretch like a rubber band and be tight. Add a common binder clip to the end of tube. This will seal the tube end and act as a handle to hold the jig while applying PP. Remove clip when baking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Moose Baits Posted March 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 24 minutes ago, Apdriver said: That sure sounds like it may work, MadMoose. If you leave some gap between your RTV and the jighead, the powder would cover all your jighead and not leave a large spot uncovered. The problem I see with it is the straw will melt from the heat but a guy could fashion something from some small aluminum conduit, maybe? Sorry, I wasn't clear. The straw is just the mold and wouldn't be used since, you are correct, it would melt.\ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Moose Baits Posted March 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, fshng2 said: That would work but why not use silicone tubing as it is readily available? Check size you will need but it is available by ID from 1mm, 2mm, 3mm etc. I would recommend getting a size slightly smaller than the swivel . The tubing will stretch like a rubber band and be tight. Add a common binder clip to the end of tube. This will seal the tube end and act as a handle to hold the jig while applying PP. Remove clip when baking. Even better...I didn't realize there was silicone tubing already made! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Moose Baits Posted March 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 So....now knowing the high heat silicone is readily available, this should work. Now ya know why I asked for a discussion! Thanks a ton TU Peeps! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fshng2 Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 34 minutes ago, Mad Moose Baits said: So....now knowing the high heat silicone is readily available, this should work. Now ya know why I asked for a discussion! Thanks a ton TU Peeps! NP...If you get a chance post results. I am sure others here will like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Moose Baits Posted June 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Can't post the pix right now but... IT WORKED!!! I got some 1mm ID silicone tubing. It is a little small so 1.5 or 2 mm would be best. I pushed it onto the swivel. Heat w heat gun. swish in paint. turn tubing while it cools to keep the swivel free. Yay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNC Molds N Stuff Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Very nice. I use Teflon rod and tube for things all the time, but for your application eh silicone is even better. Good discussion everybody. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fshng2 Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Mad Moose Baits said: Can't post the pix right now but... IT WORKED!!! I got some 1mm ID silicone tubing. It is a little small so 1.5 or 2 mm would be best. I pushed it onto the swivel. Heat w heat gun. swish in paint. turn tubing while it cools to keep the swivel free. Yay. Don't ya love it when a plan comes together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fshng2 Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, CNC Molds N Stuff said: Very nice. I use Teflon rod and tube for things all the time, but for your application eh silicone is even better. Good discussion everybody. Thanks Bob, it's fun when the light bulbs start going off! Edited June 12, 2017 by fshng2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Look in any of the powder paint sites. They have Hi=temp silicone caps used to cover the ends of screws. You can get them in all sizes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) Here is a link https://www.stockcap.com/store/epdm-caps.html Edited June 12, 2017 by Basseducer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kscatman76 Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 I always head them then keep a cup of water and dip the swivel in the water for about 2 seconds, you will hear it sizzle as it cools, then dip the head in the paint. the lead at that point is hot enough to get painted but the swivel has cooled enough the paint one stick. works perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fshng2 Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Kscatman76 said: I always heat them then keep a cup of water and dip the swivel in the water for about 2 seconds, you will hear it sizzle as it cools, then dip the head in the paint. the lead at that point is hot enough to get painted but the swivel has cooled enough the paint won't stick. works perfect! Do swivels transfer any water to powder paint? If no water is transferred to the PP this is the most efficient way to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kscatman76 Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 if you only leave it there for one or two seconds the head from the swivel will make the water evaporate and you won't get any water at all in your paint. all your doing is cooling the swivel part off just enough that the paint won't stick. takes about 2 seconds max. pony heads just to be a pain in my rear until I discovered this little trick now they come out perfect. sometimes they get a little powder paint residue on them after dipping, this will either fall off or you can rub it with your fingers and it comes right off. give it a try, I think you will like it and it's fast! travis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fshng2 Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 24 minutes ago, Kscatman76 said: if you only leave it there for one or two seconds the head from the swivel will make the water evaporate and you won't get any water at all in your paint. all your doing is cooling the swivel part off just enough that the paint won't stick. takes about 2 seconds max. pony heads just to be a pain in my rear until I discovered this little trick now they come out perfect. sometimes they get a little powder paint residue on them after dipping, this will either fall off or you can rub it with your fingers and it comes right off. give it a try, I think you will like it and it's fast! travis Great tip, I like it....You da man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
