Senko mix or formula

[Nebraskalure]

Whats everyones opinion on best mix for senkos    Like plastisol: soft -  medium -  hard   or with hardner,   how much salt per quart or garlic  

what seems to perform the best ? 

[CNC Molds N Stuff]

I think that's going to be a very personal call, but I like 1/4 cup fine restaurant salt to 1 cup MF soft sinking.  With soft or extra soft I had to use 1/3 cup to get the fall rate right, and that made the bait to stiff.  

[Nebraskalure]

i guess I should ask first what kinda plastisol everyone uses for senko   Soft  or medium  I am assuming not hard 

 

[BassJunky]

I'll be following this thread, doing my first senko pour tomorrow and trying to decide on him much salt

[alsworms]

As Bob mentioned, you're gonna get a wide variety of answers here as I don't think I've seen the same recipe twice!

I used 1/3 popcorn salt to MF super soft. 

I think you'll have to play around with it until you find what works best for YOU. 

[Nebraskalure]

does anyone use medium for senko or stick baits 

[alsworms]

Hopefully, someone can chime in who uses a tougher plastic.  Personally, I don't see it working all that well.  Salt will make the bait hard and heavy, 'specially the amount of salt needed to match a Senko. 

[Baitjunkys]

depends, i shoot all my sticks in medium, i want bounce in the bait, not a limp noodle like the yamy. personal preference i guess.

[POV_Fishin]

I've used medium in the past and even hard, just messing around. Honestly it depends on how you rig it on whether the hardness plays a role. Oddly enough I found the softer stick baits lasted longer. By the way, if you're selling them don't label or advertise them as Senkos unless you're comfortable with getting a cease and desist from Gary Yamamoto as he owns the trademark for the name 'Senko'. 

[alsworms]

16 hours ago, Baitjunkys said:

depends, i shoot all my sticks in medium, i want bounce in the bait, not a limp noodle like the yamy. personal preference i guess.

I think this kinda depends on what part of the country you're from.  Out here in the west, guys talk about a Yamamoto Senko being as hard as a rock.  Personally, it's the hardest soft bait I've ever used (if that makes any sense.)  Definitely not what I'd consider a limp noodle.  lol

[Baitjunkys]

when they have full droop after getting some sun, and throw off the hook. i call that a limp noodle.

[alsworms]

53 minutes ago, Baitjunkys said:

when they have full droop after getting some sun, and throw off the hook. i call that a limp noodle.

Maybe it has something to do with humidity then because we don't have that problem.   It gets VERY hot here, but humidity is minimal. 

[uttexas]

I insert a snipped off piece of coat hanger wire to get the fall rate I like

Just enough salt so they taste like salt/not plastic--maybe 2 tablespoons per cup of plastisol. 

Too much salt makes the plastic tricky to work with (reheating and pouring)

[mark poulson]

I read here years ago that the original GYCB ratio was 2 parts soft plastic to 1 part salt.  I follow that formula, and get stick baits that weigh the same as the Senko.

I switched to glass beads, same ratio, and just a tablespoon of salt for taste per cup to get stick baits that are  more durable.  I add a teaspoon of softener, too, because I like wiggle.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-LBS-Glass-Bead-Medium-Grit-MIL-SPEC-8-70-100-grit-Sand-Blasting-Abrasive-/111672165459?hash=item1a002e0453:g:VocAAOxydgZTKU6c

If I put an O ring 1/4" down from the nose, I can T rig one of my baits and pitch it back in the tulles all day, or until enough fish have eaten it to either break it at the hook, or make the plastic too shredded from burying the hook point to keep fishing it.

[Nebraskalure]

Thank you Mark 

[mark poulson]

1 minute ago, Nebraskalure said:

Thank you Mark 

 

Just be sure you spray your injector  tube with PAM before each batch, so you don't wind up scoring the inside from the blast medium.

If it feels gritty, push the plunger out, and spray down the barrel, so the O ring on the plunger cleans the barrel on the way back in.

I've been using the same injector O ring for years, and it's held up.  I just have to take care of it.

Bear in mind I'm just a hobby pourer, so I only do small batches for myself and a couple buddies.  I have no idea what's involved with using my methods/materials for production.

[thefraz44]

On March 26, 2017 at 2:33 PM, alsworms said:

I think this kinda depends on what part of the country you're from.  Out here in the west, guys talk about a Yamamoto Senko being as hard as a rock.  Personally, it's the hardest soft bait I've ever used (if that makes any sense.)  Definitely not what I'd consider a limp noodle.  lol

I will have to back you up on that theory. Here in Ohio, we have some humidity, and I have noticed that my senkos are usually the most durable in the winter (not as much humidity) and less durable than certain stick baits, such as the Yum version in the summer months. It doesn't seem to matter to the fish, however. To me, this theory is very interesting.

[mark poulson]

I live in NoCal, use this in my 2/1 senko mix with soft plastic, a tbl. spoon/cup of salt, and a tsp. of softener, and my senkos are flexible and stronger than the original.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-LBS-Glass-Bead-Medium-Grit-MIL-SPEC-8-70-100-grit-Sand-Blasting-Abrasive-/111672165459?hash=item1a002e0453:g:VocAAOxydgZTKU6c

[uttexas]

Another way to add weight to a senko without salt or metal is to use glass glitter.  That stuff is heavy.   You will end up with a lot of green pumpkin magic senkos. 

[FATFLATTIE]

I use medium plastic and use 2 heapingtablespoons of salt per half cup of plastic and half tablespoon of softener. The sticks have good wiggle but are just like the original, useless after one fish. I've used the do it HDA and it's good for making a really durable bait, it just doesn't have the same wiggle as the ones I make with salt.

[mark poulson]

17 hours ago, FATFLATTIE said:

I use medium plastic and use 2 heapingtablespoons of salt per half cup of plastic and half tablespoon of softener. The sticks have good wiggle but are just like the original, useless after one fish. I've used the do it HDA and it's good for making a really durable bait, it just doesn't have the same wiggle as the ones I make with salt.

The glass blasting medium makes them really tough, but not stiff.  I add softener anyway, for more wiggle on the fall.