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Posted 25 September 2004 - 09:45 PM
Yes, the "kill spot" or "false-eye" is there as a last line of defense to confuse predators, I think the scientific community and some real good fishermen agree. So the question becomes, "How well does it work?
A feeding bass's lateral line picks up on a lure's vibration and zeroes in on the biggest black dot at the last possible moment to orient his usually successful attack. Does the fish succeed? Does it matter where the dot is to a big bass inhaling a lure? Has this fish learned that the false-eye simply means, soft-ray baitfish on the menu? Has he learned that if the false-eye is in the wrong place, the baitfish bites back? Obviously, when nature paints a target on a particular species, the mere fact that it has survived to the present, must mean that the shad and other species have utilized their personal target effectively.
Where does all this leave the lure-maker? I'll go out on a limb here and say that usually a kill spot somewhere on a lure will help more than hurt. At least until the day when they'll hit anything that doesn't have a kill spot...
Posted 26 September 2004 - 07:29 AM
Purely based on days of observation via aqua-vu, the thing that sticks out on any prey fish is the eye and the sides. Most eyes have a chartreuse-gold appearance that seems to glow and that's what I pick out at depth. Of course, this perception could have to do with the red/green light from the camera, I can't be certain. The point I was trying to stress but did not do successfully was that I live on a supposedly clear lake and I have to tell ya just how much suspended sediment and material there is in the water. It's like a snowstorm or sandstorm! In a swimming pool, you can see from one end to the other, but in a natural environment, you can't see more than 10 ft on a good day, and it all depends on depth and turbidity of water. There was a good article in bassmaster about triggering vs. attracting qualities (Sept, 2004 pgs. 56-60). In that line of thinking with a twist here...the slower you move your lure, the better look a fish gets, the more natural it must appear because the higher probability a fish will pick out any/all flaws your bait has and the more triggering qualities it must posess. The faster your bait moves, the less natural it has to be and the more attracting qualities it must have. To me, a kill spot is an attracting quality, not a triggering quality. Let's back up and review/summarize the article. Attracting qualities are: large size, bright colors, mechanical action, and unnatural noises; triggering qualities are: small size, natural colors and flash, random action, natural sounds. My cliche' for this is: are you fishing loud and proud or supple and natural? At any rate, the kill spot helps with "reaction bites" because it's an additional attraction quality on a reaction type bait. Consequently, if you were cranking your lure slowly, it would present as a flaw on the lure because it is not natural. So you have to ask yourself, am I fishing fast, deflecting off of obstacles in hopes of a reaction bite? Am I cranking extremely slow in hopes of duplicating forage bass are feeding on? Is it a mixture of both? Again, based on observation, I've come to realize that even my slowest retrieves with a 4.3:1 reel are rather fast in the fish world and that's my theory as to why the kill spot works and you see them on all the baits. Crankbaits are a mixture of attracting and triggering qualities but I think they lean more towards attracting no matter how natural they look because it takes EXTREME patience and concentration to work a crankbait very slowly and very slowly to us is still fast in the fish world. Don't believe me? Jump in the swimming pool, pond, lake, or river, and have somebody crank a bait over your head from a distance and try to catch it or do what I did, watch the lure on camera! Just as a few side notes...fish become conditioned to baits and any different bait, be it color or other aspect, presents a higher percentage you'll fool them, every water has a different quality of water clarity, every water has its own forage to emulate, and finally....lucky craft has produced more smaller baits recently than larger baits; given their fairly natural finishes, you have to ask yourself "why?" while keeping in mind that larger bold chartreuse cranks still hold their own in major tournaments. Are you fishing loud and proud or supple and natural?
Posted 27 September 2004 - 10:08 AM
Here is another thing that I will add, it is proven the color you paint your lure is generally not the color the fish in seeing underwater. Here is a book that I recommend reading. ?What Fish See.? Understanding optics and color shifts for designing lures and flies By: Colin J. Kageyama. This is an excellent book and a must for lure builders. You can get it at http://www.thornebro...deos/books.html .
Someone brought up that looking through an aqua-vu the key thing he seen was the eye. This is light gathering from your infrared LED?s and reflecting like when you drive at night and see deer or raccoon eyes. Their eyes are deferent from humans their eye will gather more light so that the fish can see in the dark. The under water camera is just catching that reflection.
Also someone brought up slower baits have to look more real. In my opinion I don?t think so. I think when you slowdown your presentation, the key is making the fish think it is live and real. How many people have seen bass or bigger fish in an aquarium with baitfish swimming around? That baitfish will swim as far away and as fast as it can when a bigger fish comes close. So say we are fishing for bass and you are running a crank bait real slow and a bass comes up to your bait that fish will pickup that it is not natural for it not to try to getaway before the color will give it away. If anything I believe that the non-natural color will help! Saying that is might think it is some thing that it has not seen before. You know what killed the cat. I also believe if you get the fishes attention like that you have a real good chance you can get that fish to eat. Just keep changing direction of your bait and speeding up your lure every once in awhile. Also I have never see one lonely baitfish also swim in a straight-line. Just like it you?re fishing a plastic worm on a dead stick that is not going to out perform one that is moving natural. I have never seen a night crawler yellow or some of the colors we have today and we work them slow.
I hope this helps somebody. I know it is not 100% accurate if I were I would have gills.
Posted 27 September 2004 - 10:27 AM
Sorry I did not think it posted when I had to read the new TU policy and rules.
Posted 27 September 2004 - 05:18 PM
Tally, I love your red eyes. How are you doing them? Those thing stands out. That is what I look for when I put on eyes.
Posted 27 September 2004 - 05:41 PM
Those are beads that I prime and paint. It is what I used on my very first bait and just continued doing so. There was a post long ago that someone asked what a fish's eye look like, and the reply was:
As funny as it was at the time, there is a lot of truth to it.