Nathan Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Has anyone seen this method before?....looks easy enough..and bead chain is fairly strong...Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I thought about using chain years ago, but I couldn't see a way to keep the glue/epoxy out of the joints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21xdc Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'd be a little worried about the strength. I would need SS if I did that. The free movement should be great though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted September 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Definitely have to use SS..I was doing some research and this stuff comes in all sizes.. Mark, I wouldn't cut my bait in half..Just drill out each side slightly larger than the chain, a little 5 minute epoxy on the chain..a little down the hole and feed the chain down the the hole with a tooth pick..etc..let dry on one side then do the other side...What do you think?..Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 In that arrangement you are basically depending on a single bead and the 2 links within it for the joint. I don't think it would be as flexible as other joints and I'd worry about the links hogging out the hole in the bead's wall and failing eventually. Not saying it couldn't be a solution but Is it the best one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I wouldn't think the beads inside could go anywhere for quite awhile. The bead would have to work out of the epoxy to the diameter of the bead, at least close to begin failure. These chains come in different sizes too. Nothing says how many are used for anchoring into the piece except for the size of the lure itself. I believe it's worth trying and testing. As 21xdc stated it should have action if you can keep the joint clean. Just my Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 12 hours ago, Nathan said: Definitely have to use SS..I was doing some research and this stuff comes in all sizes.. Mark, I wouldn't cut my bait in half..Just drill out each side slightly larger than the chain, a little 5 minute epoxy on the chain..a little down the hole and feed the chain down the the hole with a tooth pick..etc..let dry on one side then do the other side...What do you think?..Nate Nate, I would be very hesitant to use chain. The balls in the link are thin walled, and I think they would fail with repetitive movement on the swim. Plus they're permanent. You'll only get one shot to install them correctly, and, once you get them installed correctly, if they do fail, you'd have a heck of a time trying to replace them. I really don't like joints that can't be serviced in the case of problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted September 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Don sent me this link to bead chain that is used in trolling rigs...to steal a line from Laugh In..."Hmmm...Very Interesting"...If you get that last reference..your like me,..old!!..Nathan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonister Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Oh dang those swivels are an awesome idea. It would be just like having a swivel on any lure.. eventually it will fail but I'd imagine it would take forever. your bait would probably be toast before the swivel broke. trust me those heavy ones are awesome. They work great for salmon and sturgeon. My 80# Dacron breaks before the bead chain will. I'd imagine they are stronger than the other bead chain posted as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonister Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Come to think of it you could even pin them in place. Just like a eye/pin hinge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 I think we went through this bead thing years ago Nath, never ever thought they would stand up to a good fish, BUT those poundage's quoted in your attachment has certainly changed my mind. Thanks for posting . Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 I would make a test joint with two pieces shaped like my bait's joints. See how it holds up to folding the two pieces to one side hard, like a fish would when it's trying to throw the bait. It's better to fail in the shop than in the boat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 It looks like the same chain used on two ounce weights we use while trolling for stripers. That might not be a bending situation, but strength sure isn't a problem with the weights. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted September 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Musky, I think you are right..I found some of this at Cabela's and order it in the different sizes they had ...They aren't cheap...your at a little more than a dollar a chain!!..I just want to check them out..I still don't know if it is a usable option..Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Nat, you never know until you try. I applaud people who looks for other paths. If nothing else please let me know how it turns out. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don-Art Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 My thoughts were the same as jonister. An edge drilled blind/pocket hole and cross pin through the loops. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 You never know, but look at the Live Pointer. It just uses flexible steel wire through the multiple joints. On paper, the wire is very strong, 80 pounds or more I guess for each strand, and very flexible. But the strength of wire, or bead chain, is measured in tension, or pull. It is not measuring shear which is what is created when the joint is flexed hard when a fish is fighting. Mark made the best suggestion here, test it in the shop first. I have tossed dozens of Liver Pointers away before I stopped buying them, just because of broken joints and lost fish. But, I have considered replacing the wire with Spectra............ Again, you really never know until you test it. Try it and let us know what you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
