ScottyMac Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 Curious if anyone else is double baking their jig heads? Not sure where I heard/read/watched it but supposedly if you cure them, let them cool completely and then bake them again the finish becomes that much tougher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 Yes, but not intentionally to make it tougher. I have coated, cured, then came back and added highlights and recured. I never saw an improvement in toughness, but then I never saw a problem with the original toughness either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 I have done thousands of multi-color jigs, and have never double baked them. If I add additional colors onto a jig I just heat the jig up again add the color and blend it in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLS Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 X2 on what Cadman said. Some of my lures have 6 colors on them and I do not cure until I'm done painting. As for curing a lure twice, I have never done it and will probably never try it. I cure my lures for 25 minutes and have never had a problem with the toughness of my paint. That and there are times that I paint enough lures that double curing would require me to purchase another oven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 There is 1 color I double cure, table rock shad. The reason is that color is chartreuse with a purple back, I add the purple back over top of the chartreuse and bake it and the purple blends into the chartreuse and turns brown. So now I paint my jig chartreuse and cure, not a full cure but a half cure, 7 minutes, that is long enough for the paint to initially set. After the 7 minute cycle I let the jig cool down and then heat it with my torch and add the purple and then bake it for a full cure cycle, the paint gets hard and the colors don't blend together. I will also say that this is the only color I've had to use this curing method with, I've done thousands of lures with all kinds of color combinations and a lot that involved chartreuse, even blue over chartreuse and the only one I ever had change was the purple over chartreuse. Other than that 1 example I really think double baking is just wasting electricity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Every time that I have tried "double baking" I have wound up changing/dulling the color if it is chartreuse or white. I had the same thing happen as smalljaw with chartreuse and red on some blade heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 I will say, that I have the same problem with yellow chartreuse and purple as smalljaw has. If you put all the colors on, the only color that doesn't come out is purple, and like mentioned, it turns brown once it is baked. So I will bake my entire jig and then add purple for accent and any other color that goes after that. I do not bake again, I just heat it thoroughly until the purple blends in. Once it all cools, the purple actually looks like it is supposed to be "Purple". I also have a custom made blue that doesn't play nice with yellow chartreuse. It turns green. So I apply the same method to that color as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLS Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 smalljaw reminded me that I had double baked once also, for the same junebug on chartreuse. I only done it once cause I switched to painting junebug and then brush tapping 1/2 of the bait chartreuse, no double baking required as the chartreuse covers the purple without blending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyMac Posted January 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Great stuff, thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Scottymac, I just started double making my large spinnerbait heads. A very noticeable difference in its hardness after the second round. It can take away a little luster, but I add a coat of epoxy after that, so no worries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyMac Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Well I guess this leads me to another question. Since I'm new to this and my stuff hasn't really replaced too much of what was previously in my arsenal, how much tougher are our homemade finishes vs some of the retail jigs available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Boy I wish I could give you an answer to that one but I haven't bought a finished jig in over 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyMac Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 LOL, that's the direction I'm just getting started toward. But I tell ya there is a trend to a more ultra compact flipping style with a short hook that I would really like to see a mold for. I have meathooks for sure but those are 1/2oz jigs. Anyone familiar with a similar mold to the cobra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 hours ago, ScottyMac said: LOL, that's the direction I'm just getting started toward. But I tell ya there is a trend to a more ultra compact flipping style with a short hook that I would really like to see a mold for. I have meathooks for sure but those are 1/2oz jigs. Anyone familiar with a similar mold to the cobra? The Do-it weedless flipping jig mold will make a jig that I bet performs almost like the one in the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 hours ago, ScottyMac said: Well I guess this leads me to another question. Since I'm new to this and my stuff hasn't really replaced too much of what was previously in my arsenal, how much tougher are our homemade finishes vs some of the retail jigs available? Well, it is one of those answers that comes out sounding like I am dodging the question. It depends. They still sell "eye busters" for popping paint out of jig eyes, but it won't touch the powder paint I use on my jigs. If I don't get them clean before I bake them, I have to drill them out. So, that says something. Some commercial jigs still use acrylic paints or vinyl paints because they are so easy to spray apply. They usually apply a clear coat, but these jigs are what the "eye buster" pliers are designed for. Some commercial jig makers are using powder paint for their jigs, and a lot of them are some the people on this site. These jigs are every bit as strong as our "homemade finishes", because they use the same methods and techniques as the hobbyist. I suppose in this case it is a question of which came first, the chicken or the egg...........did they do it first and the hobbyist copied it, or was it the other way around? I see more and more commercial jigs, the retail jigs, becoming as strong as anything we do, but there are still a lot of the less expensive lesser quality finishes out there. Like I said, it depends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
