Painter1 Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Gami 604 works well as does a good coat of the lead release paint in every recess. pull up from the hook bend a bit, grab sprue with NN pliers. Problem solved. I made 50 of them this past weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 14 hours ago, Painter1 said: Gami 604 works well as does a good coat of the lead release paint in every recess. pull up from the hook bend a bit, grab sprue with NN pliers. Problem solved. I made 50 of them this past weekend Have you been able to get the 4/0 Gamakatsu 604 in the 1/4oz head that it is straight?? I'm asking because I sent my mold back, I could not use the 604 and I didn't even think of the VMC 7150. If you are getting the 4/0 604 in the 1/4oz cavity then I may have got a defective mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac01 Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Hi the 4/0 do sit slightly crooked. It lines up straight when the hook sits in the slot for the wire keepers. You have to go to a 6/0 size in the gamakatsu's to get a long enough are near the eye for it to be perfectly straight. It is very minimal in the smaller sizes if thats what you want to use. I use them and they work fine being only slightly crooked. I have been using the owner 5318 just hard to find the larger sized in bulk or more than 100 pcs. Hope you get a better releasing mold than I did when yu get your new one. I got no help from do it even the guy I talked to said they are a pain and to use the Drop Out stuff and you have to deal with it. Pretty sad. His name was Lloyd and seemed very knowledgeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 4 hours ago, mikemac01 said: Hi the 4/0 do sit slightly crooked. It lines up straight when the hook sits in the slot for the wire keepers. You have to go to a 6/0 size in the gamakatsu's to get a long enough are near the eye for it to be perfectly straight. It is very minimal in the smaller sizes if thats what you want to use. I use them and they work fine being only slightly crooked. I have been using the owner 5318 just hard to find the larger sized in bulk or more than 100 pcs. Hope you get a better releasing mold than I did when yu get your new one. I got no help from do it even the guy I talked to said they are a pain and to use the Drop Out stuff and you have to deal with it. Pretty sad. His name was Lloyd and seemed very knowledgeable. The 5318 is a light wire hook so may as well stick with the 32746. The idea of the 604 is to get a more robust hook, a 5318 is a great hook but doesn't help since it is a light wire hook. Now the VMC 7150 fits, I may go and get that mold later on and go with the VMC but for now I have other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac01 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 3 hours ago, smalljaw said: The 5318 is a light wire hook so may as well stick with the 32746. The idea of the 604 is to get a more robust hook, a 5318 is a great hook but doesn't help since it is a light wire hook. Now the VMC 7150 fits, I may go and get that mold later on and go with the VMC but for now I have other options. Yeah I understand the 604 is much heavier but the owner is much tronger than the Mustad model you specified. If you want a perfectly straight hook then you are going to have to go to 6/0 in the 604 models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 I haven’t made anything smaller than 3/8 ounce, so thanks for the intel on hooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac01 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 Sure glad to help. I have had my best luck with the Owners personally being better quality and stronger than the mustads or eagle claws. If your doing large mouth the 6/0 gamakatsu will work for all sizes but I am river fishing small mouth and walleye they are a little large. To each his own I guess. The smaller gamakatsu will work but are a slight pain to get lined up because they will be slightly cocked but not terrible. The bigest issue I have found is just to get the heads to release from the mold. Just got some Drop Out so we will see how that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aulrich Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 On mine , it takes some tapping with a stick of pine , the 1/4oz chamber seems the worst. That also is running lousy diving weight lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac01 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 I have tried super soft to extremely hard lead and honestly I see no difference. The people at do it said the harder the better in this mold and to also turn the heat up some as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
