Jig Man Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 I've been experimenting with my mold. It is a 4 cavity mold from Lurecraft. It shoots great. I used my two injectors with my blending block to shoot laminates. It did a pretty good job but when shooting the 2 colors blended together (not swirled) giving me unusual tail coloring. I'm wanting to keep the 2 colors completely separate from each other so I made a lamination plate. I spent some time trying to shoot some halves today. I preheated the mold, lamination plate, and injectors. I tried different temps of plastisol. I tried different speeds and pressures while injecting. I even lubricated the mold and plate. The end result was 1 half completely shot. All the rest had incomplete tails. Do you think I should wait and try it again in summer? Or is there a slickum that might work for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 This calls for a picture, before and after. LOL It sounds like the lamination plate needs to tweaking. Is it always the same ones that don't fill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Yes it is the same always (all of them) that don't fill. The body fills and 1/2 of the tails. The plate is just a piece of aluminum flashing cut to fit the mold. That is what I have used for my other molds. I don't have any pics right now. I'll have to heat up some plastic tomorrow and do some shoots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Are you getting the plastic hot enough? I'd say it would almost be like water when pouring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 you will likely have issues with the tails and a plate. your colours were probably a bit on the hotter side and the temps were off a bit. If the viscosity of the 2 colours is the same you will have no issues. lower temps when shooting laminates and keep the temps between the 2 colours as close as you can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpress Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 With the plate in place if your shooting both sides with a home made plate only one side has vents. The other side chokes out on air. You can use a razor knife to scarthe mold from the tails to the edge and both halves will inject properly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Linnell Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 12 hours ago, xpress said: With the plate in place if your shooting both sides with a home made plate only one side has vents. The other side chokes out on air. You can use a razor knife to scarthe mold from the tails to the edge and both halves will inject properly. yup, check for vents in 2nd half and don't use lube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted February 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Here are pics of the mold and plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 problem is how thin the tails are, Hard to plate them that thin and long. gonna have to be hot and shoot fast and hard. vent your plate with the razor not your mold... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted February 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Thanks for the ideas. I'll put some vents in the plate and try some scrap plastic later today when the temps get around 30° outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) Trash the laminate plate and go back to the two color injector. With the right two color injector it will give you the results you expect. Keep the temps around 300-310 deg and shoot with steady pressure but at the end give it a good push and hold pressure. This should fill out the tails in both colors. The tails are to thin to shoot with a plate and get good consistent results. Edited February 2, 2018 by Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted February 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) Frank you are probably right. I put vents in the plate and shot the one side. 7 of the 8 came out good. Shooting the other side had mixed results. I will have to experiment with some different colors before I decide to give up on the plate. Edited February 2, 2018 by Jig Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Frank said: Trash the laminate plate and go back to the two color injector. With the right two color injector it will give you the results you expect. Keep the temps around 300-310 deg and shoot with steady pressure but at the end give it a good push and hold pressure. This should fill out the tails in both colors. The tails are to thin to shoot with a plate and get good consistent results. Frank nailed it... twin injector ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
