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Posted 07 December 2004 - 12:44 PM
I am pretty new at applying all of the sealer, paints, and primers. I just want to run by you veterans out there if I have the process right:
1. Use Etex sealer
2. Apply Painter's Touch White Primer
3. I am going to use a spray paint probably from Painter's Touch
4. Apply Devcon 2 ton sealer
Will this work with balsa wood, if you have other suggestions please let me know, I am new at this!
Posted 07 December 2004 - 03:23 PM
If you are starting with etex, to seal.
Why are you going to Devcon to finish?
Posted 07 December 2004 - 03:55 PM
I was reading in these forums that Devcon gives a nicer seal around the paint, however, if your use with Etex contradicts this, then I will just use Etex for the final seal.
Posted 07 December 2004 - 04:07 PM
KYbuilder,......Your new around here,and probably didn't realize the can of worms you just opened with that Etex,Devcon question..LOL!!...Your game plan sounds good....Use which ever your comfortable with on the Etex,Devcon choice..Nathan
Posted 07 December 2004 - 04:09 PM
Not going to open the worm can here.
You will still need devcon for gluing in lips and such.
No conflict using it as you have outlined.
Posted 07 December 2004 - 04:17 PM
Thanks for your help, and let's close this can of worms tightly LOL
Posted 07 December 2004 - 04:54 PM
The only problem I have with that process, is the curing time for the Etex. If I were top coating with Devcon, I'd probably use it as a sealer, too. Just my $.02
Posted 07 December 2004 - 06:17 PM
Hey Ky, I could be wrong here.... But IMHO... I dont neccesarily think you need the EXTRA Beginning step of applying the E-Tex or the Devcon to your lure as a sealer. Even if it is Balsa wood. The Painters Touch Sandable Primer is my first step to the lure, not the E-Tex or Devcon.. and I apply at least 2 coats. I sand between each coat, paint on top of that and seal with either the Devcon or the E-Tex ( Your Choice!). Personally speaking, If you apply at least 2 REAL GOOD layers of the Devcon as I do..... I think your Golden as a complete sealer. I have been so far.... But I havent had the opportunity to try the E-Tex yet. The Painters Touch is a Base Coat, a base coat is just that, a coating for the paints to adhere too. I basicly use mine 2 fold though... also as a sealer! Cody
Posted 07 December 2004 - 06:21 PM
SO do away with your first step..... all else remains the same except the final one... To be politically correct, your final sealer is EITHER Devcon 2 Ton OR E-Tex! Cody
Posted 07 December 2004 - 08:35 PM
Hey KY, if you want the best possible bait made from balsa, then you
need to seal it with Devcon 2T.
Devcon 2T on the bare balsa will really add a lot of strength
to the wood.
If your balsa is very hard you might get away using another
type of sealer.
Do this test yourself.
Make a bait sealing the bare wood with Devcon 2T,
and make a bait using something else.
After both baits are finished, hold the bait between your
thumb and index finger and squeeze.
You will feel the flex and the softness in the bait not
sealed with Devcon 2T.
This applies to balsa only, hardwood baits donot need
Devcon 2T as a sealer.
Posted 07 December 2004 - 08:41 PM
The epoxies as a balsa sealer are great.
They make it armor plated.
Stick with your plan.
Etex's slower curing time will allow it to soak deep in to the balsa wood.
Posted 07 December 2004 - 09:30 PM
You don't want your sealer to soak deep into the wood. It seals the pores and takes away the woods' bouyancy.
Posted 09 December 2004 - 10:56 AM
My two cents. For a long lasting lure, the epoxy sealer is more important than the top-coat. Seal all holes for screw eyes, lips, etc too.
Posted 09 December 2004 - 12:03 PM
Sounds like to be politically correct around here,your going to have to coat the front half with e-tex and the back half with Devcon
Or would that be the front half with Devcon and the back half with e-tex :
Posted 09 December 2004 - 12:37 PM
Anyone who knows anything knows you coat the right side with Etex and the left with Devcon!
If you want to know the best method, just ask Skeeter and Chip.
Posted 09 December 2004 - 12:41 PM
Why seal any bait then? Am I missing something? How would the buoyancy of the bait be different? The amount that would soak INTO a bait would not be that extensive anyway. Please explain...
Doesn't topcoating with D2T or ET seal everything anyway?
Posted 09 December 2004 - 12:42 PM
I didn't think that asking that kind of question would stir up so much response! I think I'll go with the half-half method!!
Posted 10 December 2004 - 03:45 PM
You are correct, in my opinion you really don't need to seal the wood. I apply a light coat of poly wiped on with a rag for the two simple reasons:
1. It does give the balsa some stiffness so that you can work with the darn thing without denting it.
2. For hardwood and balsa it just seals up the pore alittle so that when you apply paint it does not soak down into the wood later.
Have you ever shot a coat of paint over wood and it looks covered.... You go back later and you can see the wood through the paint again? The poly helps to keep this from happening. Once you put your clearcoat on the bait (DEVCON!!!!!) then the bait will be sealed from water if you do it correctly. I don't want anything to seep way down into the wood. It closes off everything. I promise you that it will effect the bouyancy. Especially hardwoods.