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Cedar and Balsa
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Posted 13 July 2003 - 08:49 AM
Because balsa is easier to sand than cedar.
And because cedar will hold a screw eye.
Has anyone tried making a flat bait from cedar
and adding balsa sides to round it out??
Seems like it would be an easy way to get
the Big-O shape without using a through wire.
Posted 13 July 2003 - 09:08 AM
Coley,I don't know if that has ever been tried,But that is a great idea!! I would cut my lure pattern out 3 times (2 in Balsa,1 in cedar).Then laminate the pieces together before I started shaping.You might get a unique wobble because of the different woods working againt each other.
I would probably substitute Pine for Cedar though,I hate to fight the grain of Cedar..Nathan
Posted 13 July 2003 - 06:04 PM
I'm sitting here thinking - "Wow, why didn't I think of that?" When you try this, be sure to let us know how it worked - you've really peaked my curiousity. If you're going to make more that one or two - I'd glue your boards together first and then you can place your pattern down, mark it, and cut out all three layers at the same time - after they have dried. I hate doing anything three times when I can do it just once. Again, let us know how it works!
Posted 13 July 2003 - 07:22 PM
OK, I started on it today. I already had a flat sided cedar bait
cut and shaped. It is 3/8" wide. I cut 2 pieces of of balsa
1/2" wide. I used super glue and glued one piece to the cedar.
Then I rough cut the balsa with a band saw following
the cedar. I glued the second piece to the other side of
the bait and cut it to rough shape following the cedar.
I am now in the process of sanding the balsa to shape.
I will send pic after its shaped, before primed.
Posted 14 July 2003 - 12:19 PM
Cedar & balsa laminated bait pic posted.
I am not good at hand shaping.
This seems the easiest way to get there for me.
Posted 14 July 2003 - 01:11 PM
Intresting bait Coley, can't wait to see the finished product, let us know, JIM
Posted 16 July 2003 - 01:25 PM
Uploaded a couple pics of primed cedar/balsa bait.
Getting ready to start on more.
What I have found out is to make sure you have 100%
glue contact between balsa and hardwood.
If not the balsa edge will feather as you sand and chip out.
I also suggest you cut hardwood out first and cut lip slot
in it. Then glue balsa sides on and cut and sand to shape .
The lip slot can be sanded in the balsa. This is the way
I will do next one. A 1/8" band saw blade wants to flex
when guide is raised too high when cutting through thick
Also posted pic of a couple of top water baits that were painted
with spray can paint only. Waiting on parts for my airbrush.
****One of the pics uploaded, in Custom Rods,
Then I got error message. Will upload others as soon as Jerry gets it fixed.
Posted 17 July 2003 - 07:45 AM
Thats a great idea. Do you plan to go with a "coffin" bill or a rounded bill? Wtih that rounded body, I was thinking that the rounded bill might offer you a little more wobble, if you're looking to make this bait a 5' to 8' stump bumping type bait.
Posted 19 July 2003 - 05:50 PM
Thanks very much Jerry.
Finally got pics to load. Front view of Cedar/balsa lure
and a couple of top waters painted with a spray can
only. Will have finished pic of cedar/balsa up tomorrow.
Will also report on lure action.
Posted 19 July 2003 - 07:43 PM
I saw the pictures and thought that the bait is wonderful. It took alot of skill to put that thing together. Everything matches up so well. You have a definite talent. The shape of the bait is very unique also. I really do like it. When I saw it I thought..... where did he come up with that design. Then I saw that the bait is being held with a roach clip . I remember when you were asking how to make your first one here on the board. You have really come a long way. Keep up the excellent work. Oh, by the way, I made my first vote on the gallery tonight.
Posted 20 July 2003 - 11:36 AM
First thanks Skeeter for the nice comments. Without all
the help from you, Jerry,Tim, Ken and the rest I would
never have made my first bait.
I screwed up and put pic in custom rods again :oops: :oops:
Posted a pic of the finished cedar/balsa bait.
Still waiting on airbrush parts and painted the pearl
with a brush (which I talked about in another post) and
the rest with a spray can.
The action is a tight wiggle with an almost vertical dive.
I only checked it in my Koi pond which is 30" deep.
What do you think??
Posted 20 July 2003 - 01:18 PM
Way to go Coley. Awesome no matter where it is posted. Not a big deal, I have done the same in the past. I told you this lure making was addictive and once you make one it is hard to get those wheels from turning with all the new ideas you come up with. Thanks for sharing the picture and keep up the good work. Ken Schmitz Mylures
Posted 20 July 2003 - 04:08 PM
How do I view the pics All comments have me curious!
Posted 20 July 2003 - 04:28 PM
Hi there, all you have to do is click on the gallery. The photo section will come up. Look under hard baits. Ken Schmitz Mylures