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My Devcon is sticky
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 07:04 PM
I am having some trouble of late of my Devcon being sticky on all my baits. I am rotating it by hand for a half an hour just like it says to do. Any idea what is causing this??? Thanks in advance.
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 07:36 PM
What is the temp. that your working in? It might be too cold.
Posted 01 February 2005 - 07:51 PM
Sounds like you may not be mixing your epoxy well enough. Also, sometimes if you paint the epoxy on to thin it will not cure completely. If that is happening in just a few spots here and there, you can fix the problem by applying a thicker coat.
Posted 01 February 2005 - 09:16 PM
Have you seen a doctor about this?
It's a mixing problem, mix the stuff in a small cup, not on a flat surface.
Posted 01 February 2005 - 09:26 PM
i have come to the conclusion it is NOT improper mixing that causes this most of the time, its an opinion so don't jump on me for saying it. I no longer use devcon, but it happened to me more than once and I think temperature is the culprit, at least in my case.
Posted 01 February 2005 - 10:52 PM
Might try hanging your baits near a heat source ie. 60 watt bulb for a little while. Should help cure them out.
Posted 02 February 2005 - 12:20 AM
That is one of the reasons I switched to Flex Coat. Had problems getting a finish that was consistently good, no problem getting one that was consistently "not right" with Devcon.
Posted 02 February 2005 - 12:48 AM
you used the wrong mixture . it is 1 to 1. if you use to much resin it just takes longer to harden. if you use to much hardener it dries sticky. your best bet is to use some sort of measuring .seringes or a cup. good luck
Posted 02 February 2005 - 08:57 AM
I believe its improper mixing. The temps that I mix devcon at doesnt fluctuate 1-2 degrees ever and I'd to get an occassional bait that was tacky to touch. Thorough, complete mixing of > minute + at a time will eliminate the issue. I've mixed enough of the stuff by hand now that I can visibly see a slight color and change (becomes more fluid like) that tells me its ready. Havent a tacky bait in almost a yr now. I also tend to rotate baits at a higher rate than I've heard others do and I rotate them for upwards of 4-6 hours each, at 30 minutes, 2 ton is still tacky from my experience.
Just my experiences.
Posted 02 February 2005 - 11:16 AM
Yes the Devcon will still be tacky but should be set up enough that it can be set aside to dry after 15 minutes or so of turning. Generally 4-6 hours is needed to get the bait to where you can handle it without leaving "finger prints". I used to get spots when I was using Devcon too until I started mixing in a cup. When you mix on a flat surface it's easy to not include a bit of the stuff on one edge. Then when you go to paint it on you pick up some of the "unmixed" portion and this is what causes the problem.
Make sure equal amounts are coming from the dispenser into a small cup of some kind; I use paper cups but others feel plastic is better. Mix throughouly making sure you include the edges, go around one way then back the other. Don't mix too fast or you will get bubbles, take your time, go slowly. You will note the mix first gets a "hazy, foggy" look to it and then clears and then thins a bit, that's when it is ready.
Posted 02 February 2005 - 12:32 PM
If you do get air bubbles in the epoxy you can heat it up a bit with a hair dryer (heat the cup not the epoxy itself) this will help the bubbles float out. Only problem is that it cuts down on the drying time. This is also a okay way of making it a bit less syrupy.
Posted 02 February 2005 - 12:33 PM
How do you apply Devcon? I've been using paint brushes, and it's beginning to get a bit expense. Also, is it normal to only get about 15-20 minutes of use out of a mixture of Devcon? It seems that much past this time frame, the mixture starts getting "stringy".
Posted 02 February 2005 - 01:06 PM
You can use laquer thinner to clean your brush's up. After applying the Devcon, put the brush in a small jar of thinner. Let it sit for a while then clean it off. Then put it into some brush conditioner.
Works well. That way you dont have to spend a fortune on brushes.
Hope this helps.
Posted 02 February 2005 - 01:42 PM
Hey guys, I agree that the best way to mix the Devcon 2ton is in a cup. I also use a 2oz plastic souffle cup. As far as proper mixing..... you should use the paddle that comes with the syringe containers behind the plunger. Or at other times I use a popsicle stick. You dont stir the 2 parts together... you should FOLD it! Lift the bottom, to the top, and continue to fold it and mix it that way. After you fold it a few times, I then lift the popsicle stick up and down in the mixture to gradually work the air bubbles out. Then I apply it with a throw away paint brush. I buy 40 of them in a package from my local Dollar store. They state on the package that the working time is 30 minutes.... I disagree. I have only enough time to do 2 lures. So I only make enough for 2 lures. Its a great way to do it! If you try to do more, it's too hard to get a good even thick coat. The paint bristles start texturing the Devcon and it then becomes eneven and textured. So with that being said, I will only do 2 at a time. No exceptions. I think that the tackiness is a combination of both improper mixing AND temps! There is a reccommended temperature range, but I am going to guess that the biggest culprit is leaving residual mixture that is not proerly mixed along the outsides and putting that on the lure. Since I have folded the mixtures instead of stirring, I have not had any Devcon failures. I fold the mixture for a few minutes... at least 4 to 5 minutes, and make sure you get the outsides mixed in! I guess thats why my working time is a lot less.... I mix it more! Cody
Posted 02 February 2005 - 07:21 PM
I like to mix Devcon on a sheet of waxed paper. I fold it with an artist palette knife, thin it with a couple of drops reducer and add some fine glitter. The thinned mixture is easy to spread and the glitter helps me to see that its completely mixed. The palette knife and brush cleanup with reducer and the wax paper gets thrown away. I turn the plugs a little by hand and then hang em over the oil burner. Second coat in a couple of hours or so.
Posted 02 February 2005 - 07:24 PM
Thanks for the replies. I will try all of these things and see if they help. Any of them seem like they could be the culprits. Thanks again.
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Posted 05 February 2005 - 07:55 PM
One thing to remember as you read all these posts is what works best for some may not work as well for others. I started mixing 2 Ton Epoxy in a small plastic cup and had less than desired results. I found that I could mix better on a flat surface (scrap piece of paper or card stock, as in an old greeting card) and have had much better success. Just works better for me that way. My mixing / folding time is shorter and easier to control on a flat surface, just all in the way I work.
Posted 05 February 2005 - 09:23 PM
Try mixing on a piece of waxpaper, over a paper towel. Now fold repeatedly with a palette knife. Thin with a couple drops of reducer to a workable consistency.
Posted 06 February 2005 - 04:58 AM
I've used both plactic cups and paper plates and neither yielded negative results. I use a plastic knife to mix the two parts together and work it in a kneading and circular type motion for at least two minutes.
The only time I got that sticky result was when I knew I didn't mix the two parts together sufficiently.
Tackle Tester, when I first tried out devcon, I "practiced" on a small piece of scrap wood so I wouldn't waste lures.
Posted 06 February 2005 - 09:22 AM
Incidentally, when you do get a sticky lure, leave it to dry a few days.
Then put another coat of devcon over the first, be sure to mix second coat properly. This will generally cure the problem.