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Createx paint adhesion
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Posted 10 February 2005 - 11:08 AM
Has anyone tried painting a pattern that requires masking with tape with Createx paint.I was doing a paint job were I need to tape off any area that was allready painted and dry.When I pulled the tape off some paint came with it.I am using Zinsser stain cover for primer.Any pointers?Thanks.
Posted 10 February 2005 - 11:41 AM
Although I don't use createx, I can tell you that your problem is very common with masking tape. Especially when the under coat is not totally dry or poorly adhereed to the primer.
Most any paint store carries a special tape for the purpose of masking which has a less sticky glue than regular masking tape . Its usually blue and sometimes white, and comes off without taking the undercoat.
I would also be careful to let the undercoat dry completely, and remove the tape while the top coat is still tacky.
Posted 10 February 2005 - 11:50 AM
Scuff or Sand area that is to be painted, the area under the tape also! Pull tape back over itself when removing. Wet sand tape edge after paint has dried with 600 or finer grit this will help in leaving a clean edge when tape is removed. When using tape shoot only the amount of paint to give you the proper coverage. Let it dry completely before removing tape!
Posted 10 February 2005 - 01:35 PM
Make sure the bait is scuffed and primed, the base paint dried, as in overnite...and use low tack tape found in hobby stores. That should solve the problem.
Posted 10 February 2005 - 03:03 PM
I have had this problem with Createx using the blue tape from 3M even when the first coat has dried for two days. I feel there is a problem with Createx adhering to Zinsser as well as some other primers claiming to be "ready to paint, no sanding required."
I started lightly sanding my my primer coat and then I wipe it down with alcohol, I have much fewer problems now.
Some once mentioned heat curing Createx with a blow dryer to make it setup, does anyone do that?
Posted 10 February 2005 - 03:13 PM
I also was having this problem. now I take another step.
After I base coat my lure I hit it with clear gloss paint before adding hook hardware and gills. Seems to work ok for me.
Posted 10 February 2005 - 03:30 PM
I've had the same problem and I knew that base coat was dry. I was using blue painters tap from 3m. I think the thin airbrush paints don't hold up well to the tape.
Posted 10 February 2005 - 05:01 PM
Theres some stuff called foto frisk or something that had less adheasion , but its also very thin .
Createx says to use a heat gun to dry the colors before the next coat , but dont get it to hot it wil boil . . You can watch the water evaporate out of it , its fun
Posted 10 February 2005 - 05:41 PM
FF...You really worry me..only you would make createx boil with a heat gun..!!
Posted 10 February 2005 - 11:06 PM
Make sure you are using a low-tack tape, either the blue or purple tape
Don't use the Green!!!!
Posted 11 February 2005 - 08:46 AM
I would suggest an old hairdryer on low heat setting, I have the paint bubble on the bait when using a higher heat setting.
Posted 11 February 2005 - 11:06 AM
The key is to heat-set Createx. I'm looking into a flame thrower set up in the back yard for large batches of lures--having the lures well-sealed and the Kilz water-base primer thoroughly dried will minimize any bubbling--then low-tack tape to gently mask colors after full cooling and drying...now if i can just figure out how to get around the burn permits, and the fog from all that steam...
Posted 11 February 2005 - 12:21 PM
I tried the hairdryer techinque last night. I used my wife's industrial size ION dryer on the highest heat seating. I swear I could see moisture 'sweat' up from the paint that had been on for 24 hours!
I had no lifting problems and the paint just seemed hard for a change, thanks for the tip.
Posted 11 February 2005 - 04:33 PM
and also remember if theres any moisture in the createx the clear coat will be unhappy with you .
Posted 11 February 2005 - 07:18 PM
What about putting unclearcoated baits in a rack style dehydrater with low or no heat? You could leave them there for a long time and have room for quite a few?
Also I have been hearing about a new deck and concrete sealant called "Seal Max" I was wondering if this might help you wood bait guys
Posted 11 February 2005 - 10:11 PM
I would like to know more about this "heat setting".Does that need to be done while the paint is still wet or fresh painted?Or can it be done later on?You have my attention now!This sounds interesting.Thanks for all the help so far!
Posted 12 February 2005 - 12:31 AM
Posted 17 February 2005 - 01:08 PM
can you use a heat lamp to dry the hanging part? like the ones used to keep those fast food burgers warm till you buy them, or the heat lamp used to cure powder paint? just a suggestion.
Posted 22 February 2005 - 12:33 PM
Not sure about using a heat lamp but I would think the ones used to keep burgers warm wouldn't work very well. They don't seem to do a very good job in the restaurant!