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Posted 17 February 2005 - 11:50 AM
I am looking to get an new airbrush. Wondering if anybody had any suggestions on what kind I should get.
Posted 17 February 2005 - 11:55 AM
I'd recommend a Badger 150 or Anthem as a brush around $100. Others will say a Paasche, dont think you could go wrong with either.
Posted 17 February 2005 - 12:35 PM
Paasche VL or Milennium are the workhorse brushes. Lot of Iwatas out there also. I think that is kind of like comparing curados to chronarchs...a little flashier, but not necessarily any more reliable or durable.
I paint virtually every day (aside from last year's little hiatus) with the Paasche brushes. Don't think I would be any better off with an Iwata. Regardless of what you pick, check out Dixie Art for your set-up and parts. They have lots of info and schematics of the various brushes, and good $ on compressors. Remember to pick up extra needles and cones as you will blow thru those at first.
Best of luck with it. Let me know if I can be any further help.
Posted 17 February 2005 - 02:22 PM
Sorry, guess we should have bothered to ask what you have now. So...what are you shooting with now & why are you looking for something new? What do you need it to do for you?
Posted 17 February 2005 - 02:34 PM
Dave is right.
And I am not trying to imply anything. I was using a Paasche VL and had major problems with it. So I am kinda sold on the Iwata Now.
Not to say that its the best, but its the best for my applications.
I can clean the Iwata faster than my Paasche, and Spray finer lines with it too. Guess thats why I am partial.
Posted 17 February 2005 - 03:44 PM
Just ordered and Iwata Eclipse CS.....through dixie...would have ordered the BCS but I dont like the bottles, I prefer cups....gravity feed. Will advise.... still got a Paasche VLS set 1,3,and 5 needles etc. for sale.......the first 30 bucks plus postage......
Posted 17 February 2005 - 04:14 PM
You will be happy with a gravity feed Iwata, its a whole different animal than the VLS for sure. JIM
Posted 18 February 2005 - 08:34 AM
Had the paasche vl and nothing but problems from day 1. Now have the iwata eclipse bcs and golden paint (a almost good painter is born). Love the eclipse but those are the only two airbrushes that I have tried.
Posted 18 February 2005 - 10:43 AM
I too had major problems with the paasche VL. I wanted to like this AB but it would never work properly so I just gave up on it and bought a new Iwata HP-C. I'm sure I'll continue to use the paasche but probably for things like stippling effects which is what it is great for.
Posted 18 February 2005 - 01:34 PM
I'm a big fan of the Paasche VL for spraying large amounts of paint and the AB (oscilating needle) for fine detail.
Most any model will work. The trick is getting your paint the right consistency for the needles your airbrush has and the correct air pressure. When everything is right, life is good! When it isn't, it's expensive.
Posted 18 February 2005 - 11:55 PM
THANKS everybody for the opinions. I don't have an airbrush right now i was looking to buy my first one. (guess i should have put that in the post..huh? ) ANY HELP Was GREATLY APPRECIATED!
Posted 19 February 2005 - 01:10 AM
Same as Seminole, have a single action Paasche and it worked ok but nothing like my new Iwata Eclipse, big difference. I won't tell you tho that the problems go away with the Eclipse, still sputters now and then and doesn't like some paints but overall the operation is considerably better.
Posted 19 February 2005 - 02:46 PM
Ditto the above post about paint viscosity, psi, and practice. Trying too shoot paint that is too thick (cough...createx, before thinning) through the wrong tip and needle assembly will make you cuss at any of the double action brushes. Think this is the problem most people run inot with the Paasches. Doesn't help that they sell those d@mned spray from the bottle assemblies for createx...would have to shoot at way too much psi to get good reults that way. Any double action is also going to be touchy if it is dirty (even if you think it is clean...esp with acrylics). Single action brushes are ok for base coating only.
Posted 19 February 2005 - 03:12 PM
These are my weapons of mass destruction right here. I like theCrescendo-175. Has a thicker body for guy's with big hands, you can do fine lines to big spray jobs. An to tell you the truth never had a problem with it and it's easy to clean.
TheIwata is the "Cadilac" for paint guns as far as I'm concerned. The thin body is a little tricky to get used to, but you will know the difference sor sure, it's like angels sing when you use it "It's That Good". Has smaller part's and clean up is not as fast as the crescendo!
Now I have my cake and can eat it too.
Posted 19 February 2005 - 07:31 PM
I wish I'd known that before I painted this last batch of lures. Guess there's nothing to do now but strip them all down to the adequately painted base coat, buy a Dual Action and repaint them all.
Posted 20 February 2005 - 04:04 AM
If you haven't owned a airbrush before you are better off starting out with a single action brush. For several reasons: less expense, easier to disassemble and assemble. The majority of detail work on a lure is accomplished with stencils, scale netting & masks. So it is really not important how fine a line a brush will shoot, unless you intend on doing a lot of free hand work. There has been plenty of finely detailed art work performed on about anything you can think of, all done with single action brushes. If you master a single action brush, application will even be easier with a double action. If you decide you would like to upgrade, you can always use the single action to squirt your basecoats.