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Screw Eyes HEEEEELP!!!
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Posted 27 April 2005 - 07:09 AM
I was wondering how do you guys use this stuff? What i mean by this is that i don't know when to screw them in! After i base soated the lure, or after, or it does not really matter.
Do you screw them in once, or do you screw them in twice. The first time just to know the whole is there , and the second time with some epoxy on them.
Just got some, and i'm not really sure hoe to use them. I noticed that even so you need some strength to pull them out. They're as solid as they can get:bull: .
Don't know any one else that could help, other than you guys!
Posted 27 April 2005 - 07:46 AM
Savacs, I'm relatively new too this, but I'll try to help. I make my baits mostly in Maple (hardwood) But, what I do is lay out my screw eyes for drilling before I Primer the bait.
To choose a drill bit, I hold it up to the threads of the screw eye and make sure that all of the threads show up over the bit ,( top and bottom).
Once you have determined where the holes need to be, mark them and pre-drill.
I then put a short screw eye on the nose of the bait (you can use an old eye, as this is just to secure the bait for primering and painting) the other two holes, I put a small piece of wire in to fit snug, and this lets me know where the holes are after priming and painting.
I finish the bait with my paint job, and pull the wires out with a pliers(twist and pull).
I then select the new screw eyes to be put in the bait. Mix a small amount of epoxy, and CAREFULLY screw the new eyes in with a dab of epoxy on the threads. When all is installed and lined up, the bait is secured in the drying rack and ready for Epoxy.
NOTE, Watch the eye carefully! If the eye is going in hard and starts to twist, back it out and use a new eye..Had one break off in a glider last night..if this happens, I found you can re-drill through the hole and install a new eye
I'm sure there are easier ways, and I might be doing it "all wrong" But it's worked so far, and it's nice to know the eyes are where they should be before ya do all the finish work.
Hope I was of some help, Good Luck, Windknot
Posted 27 April 2005 - 07:53 AM
I use the smallest version from Cabela's, so i guess predriling is out of question. I guess i'll make the hole using one screw eye(instead of the predrilling), and push some wire in the hole, and afterwards do all the things you did.
Posted 27 April 2005 - 08:00 AM
Savacs, If the hole is really tiny, you can use a finishing nail as a "bit" if you find it hard to get the srew eye in without a pilot.... although, if the eye is that tiny, it shouldn't be a problem
Posted 27 April 2005 - 08:47 AM
I drill and install all mine before sealing and priming. Drill a pilot hole a bit smaller than the drill bit and glue them in. The glue isn't necessary to hold the screw eye in but helps prevent air from escaping from this site later on. If you have any other problems feel free to come back and ask.
Posted 27 April 2005 - 08:56 AM
Jed, I would like to install mine before-hand, but have issues with the eyes getting "gunked" up :oops: Hoe do you keep this from happening during the primer? I am using Kilz 2 as a primer (water base) and thin it considerably with water.
Posted 27 April 2005 - 09:31 AM
Thanx guys! I am curentlly working on a 4ynch jointed red fin, and this is the first one i'll use screw eyes on. It's not coated yet, but the screws are installed, and it already looks good to eat, and i didn't even paint it yet. Anyway i'll put epoxy in the holes just in case. I haven't drilled any holes. I just screwed them in, and just a minute ago screwed them out, and put them away, waiting to get home the day after tomorrow to finish it.
Except the epoxy laier, because the e-tex i ordered didn't get here yet
Posted 27 April 2005 - 09:48 AM
Savacs, while you are waiting for the Etex to show up, create several more lures, that's what I do to pass the time. Take your time on the lures, quality takes time.
Posted 27 April 2005 - 11:49 AM
Don't worry! That's what i'm doing. In this weekend i have to paint about 10 lures or more. Today i carved abou 6 lures, and still going.
Thanx for the advice anyway!
Posted 27 April 2005 - 11:21 PM
Much better to do that than to hurry some other part of the lure process. When I first started building baits I would get so excited that I was almost done that I wouldn't let things dry completely...take your time, be patient, otherwise you will most certainly end up being disappointed.
Posted 27 April 2005 - 11:27 PM
I still hurry things up as much as i can. It's in my nature. Just can't help it. But things usually go on well, and don't get disappointed that often, as i should