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I wish my crankbaits would hunt
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 01:30 AM
I have toyed with the shifting weight as u describe, embeded in a V ahaped chamber across the lure but it doesn't seem to help much & caused more problems as the shifting cannot be that controlled in various retrieve rates. It's worse when the lure is bouncing of rocks & stuff as then the deflection willl cause the shifting weight to temperoriry be lodged to one side & blow out the lure. If u restrict the shifting weight movement too much then it might as well be fixed.
Play with fixed weighting, lip config, lure shape & line tie position instead. From my experiements, getting a bait to hunt is like what everyone is saying: "It's a lure on the verge of being unbalanced" and everything has to be constructed very accurately. The line tie position especially has to be dead centre.
I think why hunting lure is so hard to make is because experienced lure makers are so good at making their lures perform well & very stable. We have designed it to not hunt.
Posted 14 August 2005 - 08:36 AM
LaPala-the more I thought of it, the way a lure wiggles, it WOULD be difficult to control. Then I thought of a thick LIQUID inside, that wouldn't get stuck at on side. Ever thought of a shaped lip, the top side. Convex/concave I'm not sure which term is corrrect. Have the lip higher in the middle, with sloping to the edges. Ever try that?
Posted 14 August 2005 - 09:26 AM
I make through wire construction Pikies for musky fishing. There are many styles of crankbaits out there but the Pikies are one of the few that are cabable of hunting that I know of. I can get the Pikies to hunt (walk) 99 percent of the time. Just by bending the eye up or down in combination with the stainless steel lip will do the trick. Hope this helps you out some. Jim
Posted 14 August 2005 - 12:38 PM
This is what I did with the lips on my Arrow Seeker, anywhere close to what u're thinking finlander?
Posted 14 August 2005 - 02:27 PM
Actually it is the opposite, higher at the line tie in the middle. What kind of action do you get with your bait? How did u bend it? Thanks.
Posted 16 August 2005 - 06:58 AM
U completely lost me there : : perhaps a drawing can help. Got a blocked mind I think :oops:
lure has a semi tight action, hunting 6" to 1'. Lips are Lexan heat bend with SMD Rework Station (just another heat gun in disguise)
Posted 16 August 2005 - 08:28 AM
Here is an idea that I have playing with for a while,but have not gotten very far due not having time for baits like I used to have(family stuff). One bait I have been looking at lately that does hunt is a J plug by Luhr Jensen.The reason I think it hunts is because of the line tie config..It has a bead chain line tie that runs through a hole in the bait that is twice the diameter of the chain.Wich means you cant tune this bait, it is constantly coming "un tuned"as the chain moves around inside the larger hole,and it will start running to one side and then the other side.With these baits they are speed sensitive,they will not run very fast.Most baits I have made that hunt, the speed where they blow out is ussually slower than a bait that just runs straight.For you guys that build through wire baits maybe making the holes in the lip for the wire a little bigger giving it a little "play" might work to help the baits "un tune".Hopefully this winter I will get time to try these hair brained ideas of mine.
Posted 16 August 2005 - 11:30 AM
LaPala- the shape is an upside-down letter 'u'. Only the 'slpoe' is not as severe. Look at the symbols on your keyboard above the 9 and 0. Parenthesis? ( ) Turn them on their sides so the high point is in the middle. Just the opposite of your bait. Tom S. has tried the heat gun trick but I have yet to. All I have is a propane torch and this might be too hot, too hard to control. the Finn (Bruce)