New Bill Press
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Posted 22 December 2005 - 09:18 PM
All i know which isn't much is they showed me one machine that used wire to cut i think they used it to cutout the punch part as for the other i don't know
Posted 22 December 2005 - 09:30 PM
I see. It sounds like a Wire EDM machine. A looong time ago, toolpaths were stored on a strip of paper tape with holes in it. Today, they use PCs, disks and all that "modern" stuff.
Anyway, if you get a chance, would you see if they can make more?
Posted 01 February 2006 - 12:36 PM
I was within 3 days of putting my deposit down on a die set. I had to come up with the press first. Wasnt sure how much tonnage to buy. Called Sheffield Plastics tech line and the guy tells me that for a 1"x2" piece of Polycarb, it would take a force of 10 tons to press a punch through it. I was getting ready to drop big bucks for the setup until I heard this. The difference in price between a 1 ton press and a 10 ton press is huge. I was going to buy a 1 or 2 ton Arbor Press and have them mount the die set to it.
Help, I need clarification and need to know how much arm force is being applied to these 1 ton or 1/2 ton presses that are being used for punching .060 polycarb bills.
Posted 01 February 2006 - 12:55 PM
Just called GE LEXAN tech line. The guy figured it up and said that punching a piece of .060 Lexan that was 3/4"w x 1 3/4" L would take a force of 1.46 tons. That is a 3000 lb press conservative. How are you guys punching bills with these smaller arbor presses? What kind of actual pressure at the arm is required?
Are these techies....that far off?????
What about these 2 presses? They are quite a bit more expensive than a arbor press, looks to be a heck of alot easier.
Mini Bench Top Hydraulic Presses $250-$300 price range. 12 ton capacity
Posted 01 February 2006 - 03:38 PM
Tbait this press makes a coffin bil about the size you said and i'm using a 1ton press and i wish it was bigger arm hurts after about 50 or so
Posted 01 February 2006 - 04:03 PM
Lurehead, can you give me an idea of how much force you are applying by hand in say lbs of pressure on the press handle. If you were lifting a dead weight how much would it equal?
Are you putting a pipe over the handle to extend your leverage?
Just trying to get an idea?
Anyone else had any price quotes from tool/die machine shops? I was quoted $650 for the dies installed on my press. Does this sound too high?
Posted 02 February 2006 - 08:13 PM
Get a couple more quotes then you will "know".You are near one of the top four machining areas in the nation and one of the top machining courses also.There are over 400 shops in the Dayton area and Sinclair Community College.Minco would be one shop to check.The DTMA(Dayton Tooling and Machining Association) is a good resource.There are many good shops between Dayton and Cinci.The good shops will have answers to all of your questions.Avoid using an extension on jacks and if you have to really "pull" hard you are nearing the jack's limits.Use of an extension will "overpower" the jack and they tend to break.