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stencel making, how do you make a good one?
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 01:26 PM
hi fellers, I've been painting my own stuff for a few years but I'll be darned if I can create a good stencil beyond making gills and spots. I've tried the stencil making material from the craft stores and it works fine but when it comes to making one for the body on a curved bait I have a real problem. Since its going to be spring soon I wanted to make a craw fish pattern on some wiggle warts I have so I wanted to ask some of you guys how to go about it before I screw up another paint job. PS> do any of you guys use a special holder for the bait, like a fly tying rig when painting. Many thanks, Ed.
Posted 17 January 2007 - 12:50 AM
I lay the bait down on paper a towel folded 3-4 times, then hold the stencil with one hand and shoot with the other.
Posted 17 January 2007 - 09:40 AM
Riverman great looking bait. But how do you get the designs soeven. Surely you dont freehand the designs on stencil paper and then cut out the designs with a exacto knife. I need to make some stencils but also dont know where to start.
Posted 17 January 2007 - 10:41 AM
That's how I do it, with an exacto knife. I lay the plastic down on a payne of glass after I've drawn or traced a pattern. Then cut it out with the knife. It's the cleanest way I've found.
I've tried burning and using a bit on the dremal, the knife is just easier in the long run.
Posted 17 January 2007 - 11:17 AM
my main question is where or should I say how do you come up with the patterns and do you have many because of the different size of lures.
Posted 17 January 2007 - 11:48 AM
I drew mine out on a piece of cardboard......it was from the side of a cereal box, Wheaties I think, lol. I then cut it out very carefully with a sharp pair of scissors. The trick is to go slow!! Take your time.
Posted 17 January 2007 - 12:53 PM
thanks for the replys guys! This site is wonderful with friendly folks. Nice looking baits Terry and Riverman. Ed
Posted 17 January 2007 - 01:11 PM
you couold try using a plastic gallon bottle. cut out your stencil. i personally use very thin lexan and cut my stencils. some stencils are 10 years old.
Posted 17 January 2007 - 03:38 PM
I haven't reached the stage of spray templates as yet. But, as an engineer I am big on jigs.
I will be making my templates out of acetate sheet as used by overhead projectors. It is very cheap (everyone knows someone who works in an office). A dozen sheets of A4 will give you enough sheets to last a lifetime. They are very easy to cut with a sharp modellers knife.
They can be mounted onto curved frames made of stiff cardboard.
presumably, the lure is held in the same position each time by a clamp system of some sorts. If the free standing acetate frame has a couple of pointers, one for the nose, another for the tail, then the frame could be positioned in the same location every time, without error or hassle. the pointers don't touch the lure, just position both ends of the lure. Thus you control height, width, depth, distance and angle relative to the lure and gain repeatability without any effort.
Posted 17 January 2007 - 04:28 PM
vodaman, you lost me at acetate-lol. but it sounds good
Posted 17 January 2007 - 05:26 PM
try this....put the acetate sheet into thinner, or acetone. It won't melt but it'll make it really soft, and after that make a 3D template of any lure u wish. How things r going to evolve from here it's up to anyones imagination
Posted 17 January 2007 - 05:35 PM
That's the point of this site. Bring on the ideas, no matter how wacky, then we can choose the best that suits us individually. There is rarely one best solution that suits everyone.
Posted 17 January 2007 - 06:22 PM
How thick would the acetate sheet have to be? The stuff I have is so thin.
Posted 17 January 2007 - 06:31 PM
I've just put the vernier on a piece. Thickness 0.13mm or 5 thou' in American money.
It is very thin but not as floppy as you would expect.
When glued to a curved former or frame it becomes quite stiff, certainly stable enough to handle for spray templates. It takes to super glue if you rough it up with fine emery.
A single frame could be manufactured and the templates made interchangeable, by hanging on pegs or velcro. I'm sure more ideas will come to light.
Posted 17 January 2007 - 06:46 PM
To be honest I try not to use stencils as I find the look of stenciled paint to be very "unnatural". But some patterns just look better with a stencil and there is no way around it. I like vodkamans idea of using a curved frame.
Posted 17 January 2007 - 08:11 PM
I tried a couple of types of adhesive stencils and none worked very well. Even the "light tack" stencil will lift recently sprayed and flash dried acrylic paint. Or it will leave adhesive residue (just as bad!). I still use it but now just don't take the backing off. It's nice to have a more durable stencil that won't wear out after 3 baits. Otherwise, it's too much hassle to carve them. But it needs some pliability to conform to round baits. And I prefer a stencil made with a non-slick material so overspray will stick to the stencil and not run onto the bait. Maybe cereal boxes are ideal
Posted 18 January 2007 - 01:14 AM
Thanks for the replys guys , I didn't realize so much help was out there. I'll post my first craw pattern when I get'er done> Ed
Posted 18 January 2007 - 02:16 AM
P.S. Forgot to mention that after u get the stencils out of the thinnes(te acetate....) they will harden again.
@maximusgunn it's exactly the stuff vodkaman was talknig about.
Another option r the aluminium boxes u get fast food to go from some restaurants.