Quick Tips...take em all, but leave one of your own!
, Jan 19 2007 12:17 PM
146 replies to this topic
Posted 01 September 2007 - 04:39 PM
Also why don't more people use dick nites lurecoat? I've palyed with epoxy all my life and I'll take any chance I can get not to use it on lures.
Do you think it's strong enough to hold up to Musky teeth?? It doesn't seem like it will be??? I just got a can of it and I am dipping lures this afternoon.
Posted 02 September 2007 - 01:09 PM
I believe this little tool is known as a profile or contour gage. Anway it works great for spray bars and patterns on plugs. You can quickly change it to any size or configuration. It also helps you to maintain uniformity when carving baits
Posted 02 September 2007 - 09:49 PM
Great tip, Kc. I'll have to get one of those.
Yeehaw! Another tool in the basement!
Posted 02 September 2007 - 09:58 PM
May the day never come that one has too many tools for the basement!
Posted 03 September 2007 - 01:07 PM
While doing some "unofficial research and development" at work one day; we found that a cheap sand blaster ate the finish of most plastic crankbaits (Normans, Bombers, ect) in a flash. It also left a very smooth paintable surface. No sanding necessary.
Posted 07 September 2007 - 02:33 PM
weighting musky size gliders i use an assortment of stainless steel screws in different sizes in case i take out to much lead
also found a waterbased marker pen made originally for the aerospace industry which is solvent resistant and isn't affected by e-tex perfect for signing larger bait's made by a company called EDDING don't know if it's available in the states but there must be an equivalent over there if not
Posted 08 September 2007 - 06:20 AM
Brian Mullaney, I haven't used Dick Nite's stuff for musky, but if you're in doubt, don't use it. Musky teeth are incredibly tough and the weight of musky adds to the torque applied to the lure.
I use only Devcon 2 ton epoxy and occasionally Envirotex. Of the two, I prefer envirotex for a number of reasons, although envirotex is okay to use. You will get different opinions as to which of the two is superior.
Posted 08 September 2007 - 07:19 PM
Brian- You have not had a lot of replies to the ‘Dick Nite’ inquiry because it will probably start a war of words on the pros and cons. I am relatively new here, so will stick my neck out and like you am still learning heaps from this amazing forum.
I have used an equivalent of Nites lure coat and also now Devcon and from my limited experience Nites or equivalent is a very tough product, in that it does not go rock hard and stands up to abrasion very well- (try and sand it compared to Devcon). Downside is it is fiddly to use, has a short pot life, need about 12 hours for each coat, coats are very thin so you will need a lot, probably a week before you could use it (2 coats) and it is very expensive (here), but gives a beautiful “Tough” finish.
Devcon sets to a rock hard finish (“high tensile”) and sands quite well, meaning it is not as resistant to abrasion but should be very puncture resistant - its relatively cheap and easy to apply, a couple of coats and you are done, probably use it in 2 hours, also has a beautiful finish.
I only make 2” and 3” lures here so the application of either is pretty tedious, I used to dip in Auto clear coat, which was much easier, great finish but not very durable. If I had the critters you have over there I would be using 2 or 3 coats of Devcon to protect the lure and 1 coat of Nites on top to protect the finish. A good experiment is to put some Nites (3/8”) in an open jar, you will lose most of it as the thinner evaporates off, leave it for a week, break the jar and see how this stuff bends, very tough stuff. Put some Devcon in a jar and do the same and you will notice it has very little deflection and will, with quite a bit of pressure break.
As you can see these are two very different products, both chemically and physically, so it’s up to you, nothings perfect. Good luck with either or both – watch for the landslide of replies now. Pete
Posted 08 September 2007 - 10:10 PM
Haz and Brian,
As a dedicated Dicknite's topcoat user, I normally will reply to all things Dicknite, but we have about seven pages of Tips going here and didn't want to start an off-topic or single topic discussion here and way-lay our Quick Tips Thread. Actually Haz, you nailed it very well about the performance characteristics of the various coatings, so I'll leave it at that. Brian, if you have any other questions about the Dicknite's, pm me, or re-post in hard baits..also do a search on Dicknite's; I and others have posted much on it: Dick himself is also a good source of info and is always glad to help!
Posted 08 September 2007 - 11:02 PM
Yep , got Ya Dean, sorry about that . pete
Posted 09 September 2007 - 01:51 PM
For those of you that use a lathe for your baits you all know how hard it is to get the hang of a skew chisel. There is a product by Robert Sorby called the spindlemaster that is an awesome lathe tool. It never catches and is very easy to use. Here is a link, try one I promise it will blow your mind how easy it is to get a professional finish without much sanding....http://www.rockler.c...5&filter=Stubai
Posted 09 September 2007 - 08:51 PM
The large craft stores carry scented oils for making candles.The work in soft plastic.There are many scents to choose from(no garlic or crawfish duh).I tried peach....not bad.
Posted 11 September 2007 - 05:37 PM
Hi ya'll. New guy here, with a tip of my own. ParaFilm M is great stuff. You can use it to mask off the bill, seal bottles of paint, & create painting masks.
I buy it off of ebay. You can also find it at hobby shops.
Posted 11 September 2007 - 07:54 PM
Welcome to the boards, Satelliteman.
Posted 16 September 2007 - 11:54 AM
This is a tip concerning your public profile:
I find when answering questions about a variety of topics posted here, that I look for the location of the person seeking information. It can be helpful for many reasons, such as fishing conditions, climate, and weather, probable lake and water types, and very often, the location of supplies commonly used in lure buliding as to the probability of finding them locally. Certain lure colors and types are favorites in particular locales, etc, but the upshot is this: When you come here seeking information, you are likely to get more help, more accurate advice, more often, if we know where you live! I'm betting most of the guys who have been here awhile would agree!
Posted 16 September 2007 - 01:13 PM
You got my vote Dean. That's one of the first things I look for. www.novalures.com
Posted 23 September 2007 - 01:03 PM
Everyone fishing crankbaits--Keep the sharp edges off the lips! You can dress them with medium-to-fine sandpaper, or got to either your hobby store or cosmetics section of your favorite great big discount store with a large blue logo and buy foam-backed fingernail type files in various grades to soften those sharp edges, whether they're this way from the lure or lip maker, or have developed jagged little spots through use. Particularly when playing larger fish near the boat, and more particularly when changing direction while leading them around are you subject to drag your line over the lip under pressure, and heartbreak will be sudden and decisive. If you're lucky the fish will come back very quickly and throw the bait. I waited and got back many cranks while figuring out the cause. It will seldom happen with small fish. The same thing applies to guys throwing metal lips; always check for and eliminate any rough edges! Please avoid my learning curve, and apply prevention, or it will happen to you when you least want it to!
Posted 23 September 2007 - 01:32 PM
Thats some sound advice, Dean. Several old baits incorporated several inches of wire leader which attached to the line tie on the bill.
I suspect their motive was to eliminate the aforementioned and to keep the toothy ones on the line.
Posted 14 December 2007 - 11:34 AM
We need to revive this thread.
Would it possible to make this a sticky?????
Posted 14 December 2007 - 01:44 PM
I agree FF. There's too much good information here for it not to be right up front! It answers a lot of typical user questions especially for those new to the site, or lure-building, and is also useful to those with more experience. Mods, please sticky this again!