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Posted 22 January 2007 - 01:14 PM
there have been many questions regarding expandable foam, but I haven't seen anyone ask if 8lb foam was useable for bass/crappie cranks. I know some of you guys use the 16lb stuff, just wanted to know if the 8lb stuff would hold up before I buy either one.
Posted 22 January 2007 - 02:02 PM
Hi Pete!I dont use foam no more!!I use the smooth-on feather lite resin and it's much better!!!More durable and cost the same price!!So you sould try it,I like it a lot!!Makes nice cast,allmost no pin holes.
Posted 22 January 2007 - 03:47 PM
Yes the featherlite material is great, easy to use, with minimal fuss
Posted 22 January 2007 - 03:48 PM
I don't know what you pay for foam, but I get 2 gals for $48 (Shopmaninc.com)US and Featherlite runs $75 per 1 gal.
Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:10 PM
Hi husky,I pay about 40$can. for a 2.4lbs kit of feather lite and I can make 8 of my cranks,the foam is about 37$can. to make the same 8 lures!!!so for about the same price I have a much better product!!!It's like the legend and hooker baits,foam is to soft,fragile compare to the feather lite resin!
Posted 22 January 2007 - 09:36 PM
What kind of mold are you going to use? Would a plaster mold work?? And where can you get expandable foam?
Posted 23 January 2007 - 07:02 AM
The Foam I get is 16 lb wt which I pay $48 U.S. for 16 lbs. That would make many more than 8 lures, more like 100. This product will come out as hard as a rock.
16 LB Density Urethane Foam Common Applications: This 16LB density foam is essentially as hard as a rock, you would need a hammer in order to make any dents in this product. Can be used for sculpting or the casting of objects that require superior toughness and strength. More questions? [Try our Foam FAQ.]
Posted 23 January 2007 - 10:26 AM
Dan, Husky is right. I also use the foam, 16# density is under $20.00 for a 2# kit. With the 2# kit, I can make over 100 of my topwater frogs.With shipping added, it works out to less than .25 per lure. Just be sure to keep the product in a warm place and work in a warm area for best results. If you are topcoating with Devcon II or any other epoxy, wait about a week before topcoating as it may take a while for the resin to fully cure.If done too soon,the release of gasses in the resin will make small bubbles form under the topcoat if applied too soon. Good Luck, Joe
Posted 23 January 2007 - 10:53 AM
Thanks Joe. The key with using foam is to use it relatively soon after purchasing it, washing the lures to remove all traces of Mold release, Let them cure out before finishing, dip them in a plasticoat of choice, and then finish as you would any other lure.
While there are better products, many of them are cost prohibitive. At Shopmaninc.com, you can get 4 lbs of foam for under $20. When you're making a lot of big baits, that is a huge savings. When finished in accordance to the steps I mentioned, the results are quite comparable with other products.
Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:53 PM
Either is fine. Number of cranks all dependent upon the size of the bait guys. Musky crank may take a little more foam than a bass crank:wink: .
Posted 24 January 2007 - 04:06 AM
Hi guys!!The foam is i used is the smooth-on 15lbs and i pay about 35 $can. for 8 lures!!!!And that stuff is not very solid!!!!the hooks was making some very big damage so that is not good for me!!!3 hours of fishing and the hooks as make a 1/8 grove in the lure!feather lite is much more solid!!!!So better for me!!!cheers.Dan
Posted 24 January 2007 - 04:11 AM
feather lite also have to be used in a few weeks!!!cheers!!dan
Posted 24 January 2007 - 07:31 AM
Then my recommendation is not to use Smooth-0n foam. The 16lb wt foam from shopmaninc.com is rock hard, harder than most woods! I've literally hit it with a hammer and it stood up to the punishment.
Posted 24 January 2007 - 07:53 AM
All supplies can be got at shopmaninc.com.
Use either the Urethane rubber or the Tin Sil RTV in the highest Shore hardness. While Bondo and Plaster can work, the come in a distant second to the Urethane and Silicone Rubber.
PM me if you need to know more.
Posted 24 January 2007 - 02:55 PM
This thread has been a real education, Thank's to you all.
Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:37 AM
after you cast what do you use to seal/prime the foam with?. Has anyone had any sucess making a suspending jerk bait with foam?
Posted 16 December 2007 - 09:07 PM
Could someone try to give an equilivent wood denisty compared to the 16lb foam. I've used basswood and poplar before. Which is it more similar too or is it even less dense than basswood?
Thanks for the info.
Also can you use screw eyes with the foam?