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Anyone seal and Prime with Kiltz?
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Posted 22 February 2007 - 01:29 PM
Does anyone seal and prime with the water based Kiltz?..I was going too try dipping ..Just trying too find a faster process..Nathan
Posted 22 February 2007 - 07:02 PM
Absolutely,It fills wood grain well.I have not found any draw backs what so ever.Letting it dry for a day of course for the moisture to dicipate.
Posted 22 February 2007 - 07:37 PM
i have not used it but an associate swears by kilz. as stated let it dry and its very good
Posted 22 February 2007 - 11:16 PM
I tried it and dont' like it......it leaves bad streaks in the wood. If you do try it Nathan I would only dip one bait....it takes quite awhile to dry and you will see what I mean, areas that are uneven and must be sanded smooth. Also, if you are using it with a wood that shows grain like cedar it will really raise it.
I have a gallon in my shop you can have if you want to drive over and get it, lol.
Posted 23 February 2007 - 08:21 AM
I used Kilz and Pro Block by Sherwin Williams when I first started doing this and did'nt care for either one. I had the same reults as RM. It takes a longer drying period and I also had streaks and the grain raising occasionaly. I now do nothing but plastic dip.
Posted 23 February 2007 - 04:43 PM
I use it as i am not familiar with anything else, as I still consider myself 'green' when it comes to this lure making business. I don't lay it on heavy. It is dry within 1/2 hour and I sand it lightly. It makes me wonder how others apply it.
Posted 24 February 2007 - 09:42 AM
I tried dipping with it and it was really thick. Would be interested in hearing if anybody has tried thinning first.
Posted 24 February 2007 - 10:28 AM
I use it thinned considerably as a "pre-sealer" on balsa, and as a sealer-primer on harder woods such as poplar by dipping and shaking off excess, normally doing 2 coats for primer sealer. When thinned like this, I think it minimizes grain-raising because it dries so fast. I thin it to the point that when after I shake it off, no paint film remains in the line tie or hook hangers, if that helps, then put it on the dryer for just a few minutes.. I don't measure, just thin it with filtered water until it looks "right". If I had to guess, I'd say I add in the neighborhood of 35% to the volume with water, at least. I've been using this for some time now, and it works quite well.
Posted 24 February 2007 - 11:01 AM
I used it once and dipped the baits in it. I didn't care for the chalky feel it had. Also when I sanded it, lines remained in the primer coat from even the finer sand paper.
Whoevers driving to Jed's place can swing by my place and pick up whats left of my gallon too.
Posted 24 February 2007 - 11:10 AM
I'll be leaving in the morning, but before I do, does anyone in Florida, Arizona, or Canada have any I can pick up while I'm out? I would hate to make separate trips.
Posted 26 February 2007 - 03:24 PM
I also tried it and didn't like it. I sold it for $2...I made out....lol
I use nothing but plasti-dip.
Posted 26 February 2007 - 04:48 PM
To those who don't like it: I wouldn't like it or use it either if I used it undiluted, straight out of the can. It would not work for me at all that way.
To those who diluted it properly and still didn't like it: Fords and Chevys...
To Maddox Bay: Now I'm going to have to re-route the whole !*$?/! trip!!