Patrick Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Saint, I have just received a pot from Ozark. I will have to wait a bit for the drill dress, in the meantime - Is it too much work to stir the plastic by hand or should I wait??? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Thanks. I built a pot with directions that were posted here. I really like the way you set it up for stirring. I think I'll order that. I really haven't used it yet. As far as white goes, I find if I double up on the amount color I use, it tends to take longer to discolor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted August 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Roger that on doubling white. I am more concerned with it starting to smell burnt. I do not do many white frogs anyway. Patrick: I stired by hand for about a week. It can be done, but you will scratch the pot. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 I put some Anise in with my white. I won't discolor. Probably best to just microwave it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint308 Posted August 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 I will continue to play around with it until I figure it out. Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragfly Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Patrick, I use that pot and stir it by hand. go to your local cooking utensil store and buy the hi temp (600 degree) silicon spatulas, they are soft and do not scratch at all. I bought mine at Linen and things for $4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockylinx Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Saint, I'm in the process of duplicating your pots any advice on what you would change ?? do different ?? or limitations you learned about ?? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Brabant Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Try cutting teeth in the bottom of the stirrer. Off set them so that when one side makes a pass the other cleans up what the first one leaves. It works great on mine. I started with out a mechanical stirrer. When I put mine on I cut down the amount of left over plastic by about 1/4. It's great just filling one cavity and moving on to the next. I found out very quickly that I need more molds. Great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 nice setup:yay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Try cutting teeth in the bottom of the stirrer. Off set them so that when one side makes a pass the other cleans up what the first one leaves. It works great on mine. I started with out a mechanical stirrer. When I put mine on I cut down the amount of left over plastic by about 1/4. It's great just filling one cavity and moving on to the next. I found out very quickly that I need more molds. Great job. ED Could you get us a photo of the way you have your stirrer set up? Thanx JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Brabant Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 I will try and post a picture tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockylinx Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Ed Brabant , Are you having trouble posting pictures?? You can send them to me and I could post them for you. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroggi1 Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 First version on the left new Improved one on the right. Glad to help with some ideas or can simply sell you one. Motors and paddles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajan Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 First version on the left new Improved one on the right. Glad to help with some ideas or can simply sell you one. Motors and paddles So you changed the valve handle to blue:teef: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroggi1 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Different method of tapping pot, differnt paddles, stronger motor, double tapped and valved pots, you missed the wood tabel from aluminum and silver paint instead of black anodized. The differnt tap keeps the valve and nipple much hotter and can go from cold to hot and back and never get one clog. Also allows for almost zero waste as you can pour down to the last drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 "The differnt tap keeps the valve and nipple much hotter and can go from cold to hot and back and never get one clog. Also allows for almost zero waste as you can pour down to the last drop." What kind of valve is that ??? Have a Good Day JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroggi1 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Just a 3/8" Ball valve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Just a 3/8" Ball valve Maybe I should have asked what "Tap" ? Thanx JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajan Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Different method of tapping pot, differnt paddles, stronger motor, double tapped and valved pots, you missed the wood tabel from aluminum and silver paint instead of black anodized. The differnt tap keeps the valve and nipple much hotter and can go from cold to hot and back and never get one clog. Also allows for almost zero waste as you can pour down to the last drop. Much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroggi1 Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 (edited) The Tap is where the pot is drilled and tapped (threaded to accept the fitting & on/off valve) The later version have the flush fitting more toward the edge the raised one was version 1. Edited September 5, 2008 by mbroggi1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsryno Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 mbroggi1, Are you using any threadlock or anything to keep the valve in place? I used JB Weld on my last pot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 "The differnt tap keeps the valve and nipple much hotter and can go from cold to hot and back and never get one clog. Also allows for almost zero waste as you can pour down to the last drop." I understand how the waste was reduced but how does the tap affect the valve temperature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroggi1 Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 (edited) No thread lock just good engineering in the thread depth also the built in lock washer effect of postioning in re;ation to heat ring material. Temps stay consistant in the vlavle nipple aasembly after many, many many trial and errors. put a 3" extension on one and see the differnce, huge heat loss effect everything must be as compact as possible to retain the heat. With the base off level 1/4" there isnt enought to pour 4 more 5" sticks when its done. that just gets set aside after cooling and goes right back in the next batch. Tap postioning put,, it 1" away from heat ring and heat transfer to nipple is reduced plastic cools and clogs galore.. Common guys I cant let all the secrets out.... when I tell you I have alot of time and thought, I'm not kidding you. Most see mine and say "I can build that" and most can but its all those little things that add up also You need drill press a pipe thread tap, 3 differnet other machine taps every drill size in the book. After you buy all the tools to make one you coulld have got one at your door for less and hours more to fish. FYI Patent pending... Edited September 5, 2008 by mbroggi1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Understand all the work, time & etc put into it and it is appreciated. Mine is postioned as close to the heat element as possible. Still get the clog if left to long between the pours. Thanx a lot for the information JSC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redg8r Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 FYI Patent pending... You're kidding right? You gotta USPTO number handy for reference? Given that this rig was publicly discussed here back in 2003 I highly doubt it's possible. Re: http://www.tackleunderground.com/forum/soft-plastics/773-frying-plastic-2.html I had this pot in use with my own stirring mechanism (along with others) years before you even registered & I'm sure others have well before us, that's why I'm not taking credit. I find it slightly insulting that a lot of your R&D has come from this forum & now you claim it as your own design, deserving of a patent. I'll give you kudos on how you implemented your own stirring mechanism on top of the fundamental fabrication process. IMO that's the only original contribution you've made to the product. Not to mention that there is multiple resources online regarding the fabrication process of this same pot all over the web for candlemakers. Your also on notice about the incessant promotion of your pot in the soft plastic forums. You can take out a banner ad, or classified ad, or list it for free in the supplier directory (you are a club member). We want to accommodate you if you provide a product or service, but I won't moderate any more of your promotional posts, we'll start issuing infractions instead. Thank you for understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
