That picture shows exactly what I ment. Solarfall has just uploaded two in the hardbait gallery and they too are what I was meaning. Hazmail's method sounds very good but not quite what I after, cheers though. I thought about painting the bait, then painting the outline of the scales with pva glue. Spray the scales and peel off the glue. But if there is a better method I either haven't seen it or just can't think of it.