I agree with a lot of what you say Frank. A whole lot of shooting baits is what works best for you personally. I've never used a stirring system, so I honestly have no idea how big the paddles are. Seems like slightly smaller paddles would still work? Back when I was doing a lot of shooting, I would try to stand the injectors up in the pot to keep them hot. Guess I'm just clumsy, but they would always try to fall over! that's when I originally came up with the idea of holders to keep the injectors standing up-right. So do you think that shortening the paddles a little would still work to keep the plastic stirred and then be able to use a holder for the injectors? Still seems to me that if you heat the plastic in a microwave, then put it in a pot to keep it hot, you would still have an issue with possibly scorching the plastic. When you use this technique, are you keeping the heat in the pot at a lower setting?