[King Bait Co.]

We have some lakes in Nebraska that have been over run with carp. They have carp days were you can fish for free just to see how much carp can be caught in a day. Last year at one lake they got 9,000 pounds and it didn't even make a dent in them. We throw them on the bank also so the cyotes, mountian lions and bobats eat them. or what ever is their for a fee meal. You guy in Germany have 9 out of 10 people that eat carp we have a 1 out of 10 that eat carp. Thats why we have such a problem with them most think they are a trash fish but they are fun to fight I will have to admit.

[diemai]

@ King Bait Co

So obviously same problem like in Australia , but at least in Nebraska you'd also have a cold season , when the carp won't taste that "muddy" .

But who knows , in these times of constantly rising prices , also for food , wether one day people would be happy about this widely untouched source ?
You could prepare the fish in many ways , I prefer it smoked(like most other fish as well) .

And , once biggger , these carp don't have natural enemies anymore to eat them , despite the big silure , but that one doesn't make a difference between carp and bass , ducks and small dogs !

Also inviting European carp cracks won't help , because they'd always release their fish !

And I am sure , that they won't be used to catch carp in numbers , one after another , since here they first have to feed a spot for some days over here , before fishing .
The fishing session usually takes not less than 24 hours , most likely the whole weekend or sometimes even days or weeks .
They use a quality tent with a camping bed inside , modern cable ,-or even radio strike alarms , that wake them up from even the deepest sleep at night and special rigs , that cause the fish to hook itself , no hauling back neccessary .

How big your local carp are and what bait and gear do you use to catch 'em ?
Greetz , Dieter

[King Bait Co.]

My father in law is a big carp fisherman. He uses corn the most on the bottom. I have seen him make some dough balls and boilies. He likes them for the fight so he acutally uses light tackle. He has got hi-vis Stren 6lb line. and 6' 6" medium to light medium rod and a medium open face reel. He has got a 19lb one last year and a couple of 12lb one's also. He does use a boat so they can run to were them down. He just gets picture a puts them back. He just loves the fight the put up. The true carp fisherman around here are the Russian's hand down. I have seen them with buckets full of carp and their like the KGB they won't tell you a thing. They will hide their bait when you go by them so you don't see it. The Asians use a white paste with white and blue glitter in it. We haven't figured out what it is yet. We can't talk back and fourth to well and they don't know the english words for the stuff they put in it. I assume they get most of the ingredents at the asian markets in town. I think we have got this thread a little of track wouldn't you say.

[diemai]

@ King Bait Co

Yeah , it got out of track a bit , hope Phil won't mind , but there is always something dynamic about different threads .
But this carpfishing in America and Europe(and the UK is the motherland of this way of carpfishing , as it is practised today over here)also might be considered to be one of those differences that Phil started out with !

Anyway , pretty nice fish , that your father-in-law catches !

I assume , that those Asian guys use a readily made so-called "trout dough" , very common stuff in our local trout ponds , biggest manufacturer of it is "Berkley's" .

Before the modern carp fishing over here came up from the UK , the old-timers over here used half boiled smaller potatoes , boiled in scented water , with,-or without peeling them .
The consistency has to be hard enough to keep the hook inside whilst casting , but yet soft enough to release it when setting the hook .

[hazmail]

diemai, KBC- there is an upside to this, Murray Cod here grow to huge proportions, 80 lb would be a big one and I think the record is 212 lb (back in late 1800's). The cod seem to be coming back, and this is assumed to be because of the carp, which they like to eat (live bait), the other is, the Asians here like them too, and you can see them on any day sitting on the banks of the lake, in Canberra city, catching them- thank god somebody likes them. pete

[JSC]

Well you guys have gotten off onto Carp ... lets turn this out a little further to the White Amur or Asian Grass Carp that has been stocked so many places to help keep the weeds down ... those dudes get up to the 60's and 70's .... Have heard of them in Golf course ponds following the grass mowers around and actualy sliding up on the bank to eat the clippings as they had cleaned the pond of weeds ... They are suppose to be "nutered" Hello .. they have gotten to some of our rivers from broken pond dams ... they can tear up bedding areas and take away natural weeds .. really bad in some places .. to further complicate things .. they are protected in places and you cannot have them in your possesion even in waters they were not stocked in.
They can really put up a fight and are excellent targets for the archery fishermen but because of the protection they are left alone ...
I wonder if any one out of the state of Florida has the same problem ???
JSC

[King Bait Co.]

JSC are thoes the nasty carp that fly out the water and hit you when your boat or jet ski is moving. I think they have killed two or three people. I always here about them in the Missippi river and hoe they are destroying everything in their path. I think they got in their from the floods in the late 90's.

[diemai]

@ hazmail

So finally it seems , that there still is something positive about those carp , if those Murray Cod are feeding on them to increase stock again !

[King Bait Co.]

I think sombody is going to have to start a thread on carp

[hazmail]

Yes Phil, sorry about that, this has drifted quite a way from where we were, the great time had, and the good people we met in May MEET, my apologies. pete