[FishThanks]

I do get it from one of my local suppliers. It is roughly four times the price of regular western red. They specialize in higher end products for custom homes. there are many species of Cedar and then grades of some species, C and better, d and better, clear etc. I have attached a picture of the end grain showing the mill stamp. It is Clear hrt, MLGA. They also refer to it is as I believe vertical grain or straight grain. I also attached a picture showing a Northern White Cedar blank from upper Michigan like Yake Bait posted next to the old growth Red to show the difference in the grain structure. If the blanks look unusual, they are sanded and ready for a third dip in Propionate before machining the bill cut, body joint and counterboring the eyes. An old lumbermans trick is to cut a three inch long section of the Cedar, take a draw off a cigarette and see how easy the smoke blows through the end grain to show how porous it is. I use some of the white as well and it bubbles more intense and longer on the first soaking in propionate. The white is a lot less expensive even after working your way through the waste from the knots. it also machines well,and sands nice. Some of the St. Clair local guys also use white Z baits and Zing lures. I would recomend only using the .092 screw eyes in the white. hope this is helpful, have fun.

[oscarsteel]

That is some tight rings. I can't find it around here right now but I am going to keep looking. That has to be better. Thanks for taking the time to show me the differance. You have been very helpful.

[woodieb8]

we use western red. you have to sort lumber for the best wood. densitys do matter in the wood chosen. cedar is user friendly. you do need a dust system if you sand or turn the wood.. its great for sealer absortion and holds paints very well.

[jrhopkins]

try some poplar too. more dense than cedar and sands down nicely.