[oscarsteel]

Let me start buy saying you guys that make these hardbaits are amazing to me. The quality of these baits is unreal. I have been reading all the posts here for the last two weeks and have learned a lot from you guys. I am thinking about trying my hand at crankbaits. I am a carpenter by trade and have all the tools you use. An unlimited suppy of wood. I see some of you use Cedar for this, but is it western red Cedar or is it hard red Cedar like the Cedar trees we have here in the Ozark hills.

[benton B]

I use Western Red Cedar, would love to try some White Cedar but can't find a source.

[ldzoller]

Eastern Red Cedar

[oscarsteel]

Is one any better than the other, as far as lure performance or is it just workability with the wood? Also thanks for sharing.

[BobP]

Maybe someone else can chime in here, but I only know 2 cedar types - red and white. Both types have a density of 20-23 lbs/cu ft, which is similar to basswood. Some well known bait companies make white cedar baits, Stanford for example. Whichever, prime with a solvent or oil based product (Kilz is an example) to prevent oil from migrating out of the wood and staining your finish. I don't like Kilz because it has a smell that tends to linger on the bait (and your crankbait box) forever. JMHO, if you're hobby building baits in small volume, choose wood and other materials you think will be best for the bait. The finished crankbait's worth will be 95% effort and 5% materials, even if you use the most expensive stuff money can buy.

[rjbass]

Hello,

I use three types of cedar depending on the baits I am building. I use Western red cedar, Eastern white cedar and Alaskan yellow cedar. The Alaskan yellow cedar is heavier and denser than the other two and is really awesome to work with and my favorite but hard to find and expensive. Many saltwater/striper builders use it because of its non-absorbing properties. I love it for musky baits.

Rod

[Steel Pulse]

Alaskan Yellow is my favorite, a pleasure to work with, and many other salt water plug makers. Pretty easy to get here in the NE. I also use red once in a while and white, being my second favorite, lighter than AYC. Cypress is also a very nice wood to use. AYC is actually a cypress.

[FishThanks]

I am using a variation of Western Red Known as old Growth. It is a select grade with no knots (clear) and has very tight consistant growth rings making it a little more dense than regular Western Red. In outdoor applications it does not cup or twist like regular red will. My family ran sawmills, my dad was a lumber grader,lumber salesman turned Builder in the 70s and I have been building cutoms for 32 years and I just discovered it while building a very unique home. It is expensive compared to standard grade Western Red so I would not use it for learning or prototype parts. Good luck starting out and have fun.

[oscarsteel]

Thanks for all the info. I have a lot of western red and eastern red cedar. I will try make some from both.

I like the idea of the old growth cedar that Fishthanks mentioned. Do you get from a local lumber yard? I have never seen any other than what we use for decks and exterior trim.

[Yake Bait]

I use Northern White Cedar. It grows locally here in upper Michigan and I did tongue and groove in my basement. All of my floating crank baits are made from left-over tongue and groove from that project.