[diemai]

@ mark poulson

I really don't mind , this is what such forums are for !

People here might get a lot of ideas and input by the work of other fellow tinkerers (like I also do) , but many things about these they have to or want to adapt to their own purposes , possibilities and demands !

[rofish]

Diemai,
I think I have to explain what I was thinking of.
The superglue does not have to be used in large quantities, you just put a drop or less in let's say 3 or 4 places to bond the wire to the wood in the desired position, so as to be able to use the real glue afterwards without the possibility that the wire changes it's position when applying the 2 component glue.
I thought the process of forcing the glue to pass through the slot is tedious and the result is not the one you expect, since there is still air between the tape and the wood.
What I was thinking of was not to put a piece of wood in the slot when you glue the wire, but before that, so as the glue cannot go through the slot. But this depends on the size of the slot and the consistency of the glue. It may be the situation that you do not have to block the slot at all, you just put the glue into the groove, and then you reverse the lure and put the glue on the other side. This way you avoid using the tape and you also avoid air bubbles.
But as Mark Poulson said, you know best what is best for your lures.

[diemai]

@ rofish

I must admit , that I did not quite figure out , what you meant about that small piece of wood , now I do !

Compared to the time , I'd use to clear off all the excess glue again with router bits , files , a knife and finally sandpaper , any time-saving on the glueing process would not be that remarkable .

Mark's suggestion about masking the eyelet instead of the groove and apply the majority of glue from the belly-side would probably save a little time , if I think over it well again .

It's a little finacky and time consuming to cut free the eyelet from it's surrounding glue drop , so if I'd mask the eye , I had less cured glue to remove , but if not properly done , the freshly glued eye might move out of position .
Or an indention around the eye would show up by having pressed the tape into the slot too much , in that case I still would have to prepare a new mixture of glue and put a drop over the eye to fill up this indention and later work everything perfectly flush to outer body contoures .

I'd prefer to apply glue everywhere generously at it's time , after 24hrs. it has cured enough for the excess to be removed , and if I should find a bubble or uncovered spot at this stage , this would throw me back for a day , since I'd fill that spot up with glue and wait 24 hrs. to re-shape flush again !
So I take my time to do it properly at first step !

Greetings , Dieter

[diemai]

Started out on removing the excess glue on my lures , sorry , that some pics got out of focus , but I hope , they are still easy to follow the step-by-step working process .

The cutting with different "Dremel" router bits is fairly easy and reasonably fast to be done , make sure not to put too much pressure on it , since pretty fast you might cut blemishes into the wood body .

When getting closer to it , just let the router only slide over the glue .
Make sure to always hold the circumference of the bit parallel to the wood plane , also to avoid cutting into it .
Go as close as you dare down to the wood , the fine-shaping is afterwards done with knife and files and sandpaper(180 to 240 grit) !

[diemai]

Alright , here are some more pics showing the fine grade work to render all excess glue finally flush to the lure body .

Only use the knife to cut off glue against the wire eyelet , never onto the outer contoures of the lure , you'd surely cut inside !

The inside of the eye(lip plane) you'd furnish with a slim triangle ,-or square file , just work the glue down to lip level , glue remainders around the "root" of the wire eye are cut flush with the knife , always guiding it parallel to the lip plane against the wire .

Not much to say about the belly groove , just file smooth according to the belly contoure , finally sand over with 180 to 240 grit sandpaper .

The glue would smear into the files teeth after a certain time , rendering it blunt , I utilize that special file brush shown to clean them up again , but an ordinary steel bristled brush should do as well .

Before the first paintcoat clean all chips and dust away from the lure , I use a special cleaning brush for this .

Gonna proceed with this in the evening or tomorrow , only worked a bit early in the morning to shoot the pics , got one week off from work , going fishing today !

Greetz , Dieter

[rofish]

Diemai,
I thought I had a lot of patience when I make my lures, needing hours to fine shape, sand, making hardware, tuning, etc.
Now that I see you at work, I think I am a small child compared to you.

[diemai]

@ rofish

Hahaha , I have probably gathered so many lures , that I surely won't be able to fish them all for the rest of my lifetime (at least , that's what my wife says) !

So I don't have no hurry with building my lures , I want them to turn out the way , that I think is best .
Actually it is a well-suiting leisure time occupation for me , since I have to work in a shift system since 1992 .

The first 9 1/2 years I have made weekly changes of day ,- late ,-and nightshifts , now I only do day , -and lateshifts , but most likely lateshifts . My buddies take over the nightshifts for me , since they hate lateshifts and I can't find sleep during the day .

What I want to say is , that sitting in my workshop and making something , that I like , with my own hands , is giving me a kind of satisfaction , not only to live for going to work .

I have several times gone fishing before late ,- or even nightshifts , but it always turned out in dissapointment and frustration to have to leave the water at a given time , maybe even when fish just have started to strike well !
So I leave it now for weekends and vacations .

I usually really don't have to hurry with making lures , I enjoy making them !

But I must admit , that for some reason I do not bother for a state-of-the -art paint job , I'd rather create different and sometimes strange and unusual designs .

But I can tell you , that the described working processes are not that difficult and time-consuming .
The point is , that after some time making several similar lures you'd become rather professional in it , so you also get pretty fast to work them down(in my opinion of speed !)

Greetz , Dieter

[mark poulson]

Maybe jamming a wooden toothpick through the line tie would stablize it enough so it wouldn't move during a glue up from the backside. Tape, then toothpick, maybe some crazy glue at that point to help hold it and seal the hole, and then flip it and glue it.
I try to keep any cleaning of the line tie to a minimum, since any rough spots on the eye can lead to line abrasion and failure.

[clemmy]

How about dipping the line tie in tool dip or wax before inserting in lure. Then you could peel it off after epoxy/paint without damaging the line tie?

[diemai]

@ mark poulson , @ clemmy ,

Just realized about your concerns on this glue-drop to be cleaned off the line tie with knife and file !

You are bass anglers , you tie on your lures straight to the line !

In Germany not too many fishermen do that , in fact the restrictions of most fishing clubs(a membership is almost essential to be fishing over here at all , since these hold many of the waters) and also local restrictions command the use of a wire leader , when lurefishing .
For deadbait either , off course !

So the lures would always be fixed with a snap onto this leader , not tied to the mainline directly !

Only some anglers fishing for zander(walleye) in our bigger rivers and trout anglers fishing smaller rivers and creeks , also so-called "put-and-take" trout ponds , tie on straight like you do , since pike are quite abundant in such waters , or lures are too light and subtle for a leader .

But even when sometimes not using a leader , I'd always put a Duo-Lock-Snap on my line , just for easier switching .

So I don't have to bother about blemishes and cuts on my tow eyes !

But thanks for your hints , anyway , especially this tool dip or wax thing I'll keep in mind , may utilize it for jointed lures one day .

So well , I have now cleared off all the excess glue from my five new "Banana" lures , only took a bit more than one hour(check pics) .

@ rofish , to me this is not too long !

But as I look closely on the third picture(sideview of all the five lips) I can clearly see , that you guys are just too right with your concerns !

Thank God , that for above mentioned reasons I do not have to bother about it !

Greetz , Dieter