[Luretrekker]

Very nice shaped banana lure lapala :-) this may be a good topwater banana for asp fishing in Germany!

[diemai]

@ LaPala

Great design and realistic paint job ! How about flavour ?
Have you caught on it already , maybe even a trophy sized cheetah ?

@ Luretrekker

Thanks for posting the weight locations of your lures !

Made my initial design sketch today at work , out of my memory , since I don't have web access there .

But I guess , that it gets quite close , can't wait to start out carving , but before I have to paint and topcoat some lures !

Nice input for me , Manu , thanks a lot !

greetz , Dieter

[Luretrekker]

@ Diemai:

Yes your side view could be a sketch from me...good memory :-)

Many of my bananas are made from cedar wood...this might be surprising but it worked great until now with its high bouyancy. I'm very interested about how the lure will work with abachi wood. This was of course one more reason for me to insert a wire harness.

[LaPala]

Looks like you guys will be real interested in Zalt Lures too.

For the banana lure I did, I'm still trying hard to find some monkey fish

[Luretrekker]

Lapala,

I know Zalt lures. They are very popular in northern europe for pike fishing and they really catch fish.

I don't know why, but I never liked them very much...I don't like their action althought the pikes seem to do :-)

They run quite different than my bananas or for example the quickfish...much less agressive...maybe I can post a video soon.

[rofish]

LaPala,
It seems that I have to learn many other things from you. I am not familiar with banana lures, had no time yet to make one (or more) for myself, but I will surely "dirt" my hands on them some day.
I was already wandering about the action they have, especially after Luretrekker showed us his "winner", with the tow point close to the front edge of the lure. Now these Zalt lures have no lip part in front of the tow point, which make me believe that they might have a quite large swinging action left and right. They cannot have an "X" action, they would rather have a "V" action. Is my guess correct? Sorry for needing a quick answer () but I am just curious.

[Luretrekker]

rofish,
you are right with your assumtion that the front lure eye very close to the edge produces a mor V-shaped action than that of a typical banana with a more backwards inserted eye, which craetes a strong X-shaped lure action with lots of hard vibrations.

[diemai]

@ LaPala

I also don't like the "Zalt"-lures too much , they do not have a strong wobbling action on a steady retrieve , but when twitched , they are said to be real killers . To me , these "Zalt's" are rather more twitch,-or jerkbaits than crankbaits .
I much more prefer a strong , almost vibrating wiggle on such lures .

@ Luretrekker

I am not quite sure yet , wether I would make my first "Luretrekker-Banana" out of abachewood , really depends , wether I would find a piece of teakwood of sufficient thickness in my wood stock .

I'd prefer that one , since the working process would be a lot faster , since I always protect my abache lures against water sepage with a linseedoil/turpentine treatment , which usually takes about three weeks , in addition to shaping and painting !

Other woods I just dip into wood preserver , that procedure only takes three days until I could proceed .

@ rofish

But if the toweye is placed too far upward towards the back of the "Banana" , it could make the lure to turn on its back , it might not be possible anymore to counterbalance it by weight under the lip .

Also a wider tail enhances the tendency to flip over , generally speaking : wider tail section = toweye location more downward the nose , narrower tail section = toweye may be placed further upward .

Manu , please correct me , if I should be wrong about this statement !

Greetz , Dieter

[Luretrekker]

I agree with your statement so far that there is a maximum point to insert the lure eye until the lure turns.

Concerning the other statement with the wider and narrow tail section I think I dont' really know what you mean with wide and narrow...in which dimension? wider in horizontal or vertical direction or the radius of the tail? Maybe a sketch would help here to help my slow brain understanding

[diemai]

@ Luretrekker


Manu ,
I mean a rather more flat tail(horizontal) would tend more to overturn than a tail oval or even round .

For instance the tail section of a "SwimWhizz"(German version called "Damler") I consider as to be a flat , or in other words , a wider tail section .

OK ?

Greetz , Dieter