wood to wood glue?

borderbasser · #1 (**permalink**) August 15th, 2008

Can anyone tell me what is the strongest glue for a wood to wood connection. I am experimenting with a different type of hinge on my swimbaits (similar to a 3:16) and the hinges are made of wood and have to be glued to the body. Thanks.

TJ

Wayupnorth36 · #2 (**permalink**) August 15th, 2008

Regular old Elmer's wood glue is pretty darn strong, and Gorilla Glue is good too.

borderbasser · #3 (**permalink**) August 15th, 2008

Right now I am using epoxy, but due to the nature of things, I wan't something stronger if it is available.

redg8r · #4 (**permalink**) August 15th, 2008

All 3 mentioned have the ability to adhere stronger than the wood itself.

The wood (Any specie) will be the weak link.

If you can setup your hinge design to glue "grain to grain" (avoiding end-grain) then any wood glue will work.

As for water resistance, that's a whole other can of worms.

Good luck.

Vodkaman · #5 (**permalink**) August 15th, 2008

I second Jerry's comments. He's a cabinet maker, knows what he is talking about. My brother is a chainsaw artist and uses PVA (elmers) exclusively. Excellent strength, but give it 24 hours undisturbed.

Can't wait to see the pics!

borderbasser · #6 (**permalink**) August 15th, 2008

Thanks for the advice guys. What would be some examples of water proof or at least resistant glues? I have heard that Titebond III is one, but I have no experience with it. It would really be nice to have something that sets up quick too like Devcon 5min because it is difficult to clamp the pieces in place. Anyway, does it really even matter what the water resistance is once the bait has been topcoated? I will post pics ASAP. Thanks.

TJ

Striperknight · #7 (**permalink**) August 15th, 2008

Gorilla Glue

redg8r · #8 (**permalink**) August 16th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by borderbasser

It would really be nice to have something that sets up quick too like Devcon 5min because it is difficult to clamp the pieces in place.

I'd 2nd. gorilla glue for water resistance, it's a polyurethane glue.
If I'm not mistaken, they recommend using water to help activate gorilla glue. One thing to note is that it foams & expands as it cures, so take care if you're doing intricate glue ups.

There is a product I have personal experience with. Its a type of super glue, but engineered specifically for wood, it come in 2 parts, the glue & an aerosol activator. It's strong stuff & have seen it split hardrock maple trying to separate 2 glued pieces.

It sets/cures in about 10 seconds, I use it when a micro-pin is too large to hold 2 pieces of wood together:

FastCap Adhesives

It's not cheap & I'm sure there are other manufacturers, likely serving the hobby modeling market or something similar.

Good luck.

Swede · #9 (**permalink**) August 16th, 2008

I would of used a polyurethane glue thats activated by spraying water on the glue like redg8r suggests

diemai · #10 (**permalink**) August 16th, 2008

In Germany there is a special waterproof version of a popular(white) wood glue available called "Ponal" by "Henkel" .

You should have such available in the States as well , for example for making outdoor garden furniture or wooden boats .

I am using this stuff to glue 1" abachewood boards together(not available in thicker measures) , when I need a thicker blank to turn down a more voluminous lure and also lures , that consist of two halves with internal wire harness .

Never had any problems , even put some of these blanks into turpentine/linseedoil to preserve them , didn't harm the glue bond a single bit !

Some I've been fishing for years already , no failure visible !

Good Luck , diemai