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Old August 27th, 2008
 
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Re: Adventures in Foiling

Diemai,
Here there are also foil lids on yoghourt plastic glasses that are plain. But I choose to eat the brands of yoghourt or sour milk that are covered with textured foil, even though I don't like very much their taste. This is a burden that someone has to carry on his shoulders if he enjoys making lures
I have seen large margarine packs covered with such foil, which would be suitable for large lures, but we do not eat many times margarine in our house, so I will not go so far
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Old August 27th, 2008
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Re: Adventures in Foiling

@ rofish

Just had a good laugh about your statement eating those milk products , that you don't like too much , for gaining lure material .

One has to make sacrifices , lol !

good appetite furtheron...... !

Greetz , diemai
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Old August 27th, 2008
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Mark - Some company still makes a foil that has a scale type pattern on it, I saw it in the kitchen of a cafeteria the other day, but I couldn't quite see the name on the package I was too embarassed to ask them the name of the foil manufacturer, and also to wash the grease off of the piece of foil that came with my patty melt.But the next time that I am there, I will grow a pair and find out who the manufacturer of that foil is.Alex
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Re: Adventures in Foiling

Alex,
Yes, in the name of luremaking ask! Keep a lure you've made in your pocket at all times, and should you hear the whistling sound of that giant beer can falling from the sky to crush you into a greasy spot, just pull that lure from your pocket and thrust it skyward in a manly pose. No harm will come to you. Sometimes the Macho-Gods can get a little carried away, and this action will remind them that there is nothing more noble than making a fishing lure by hand, justifiying whatever you must do to make said lure.

I've had to use this trick before when buying fingernail sanding pads, and, Sally Hansen Hard as Nails clear (which can also be used as a thread sealant on gun screws) before in the cosmetics section of Wal-Mart before. I'm still here.

In this case, the end justifies the means.

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Alex,
Yes, in the name of luremaking ask! Keep a lure you've made in your pocket at all times, and should you hear the whistling sound of that giant beer can falling from the sky to crush you into a greasy spot, just pull that lure from your pocket and thrust it skyward in a manly pose. No harm will come to you. Sometimes the Macho-Gods can get a little carried away, and this action will remind them that there is nothing more noble than making a fishing lure by hand, justifiying whatever you must do to make said lure.

I've had to use this trick before when buying fingernail sanding pads, and, Sally Hansen Hard as Nails clear (which can also be used as a thread sealant on gun screws) before in the cosmetics section of Wal-Mart before. I'm still here.

In this case, the end justifies the means.

Dean
Dean,
I can just picture you in the cosmetics section, thrusting your gun skyward in a manly pose!
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Re: Adventures in Foiling

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Great beer commercial reference. It emboldened me to go up to the cooks and ask for the foil and the manufacturer. But when I got up to the counter, the cook couldn't hear me, so I grabbed a piece of foil, grabbed my skirt so I wouldn't trip, and ran.

Anyhow, here's a couple pics of the stuff. It comes in 8" x 10" sheets, appx. It is the same toughness and reflectivity as aluminum foil. It's folded in the middle, has diamond impressions throughout, but also some diagonal-running marks that are less desirable, and some fold marks as well, but it may serve some purpose, especially with the ingenuity and creativity that I've seen displayed on this site already.

The manufacturer is Sysco out of Houston, TX.

Hope this helps.

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Mylar is everywhere! Or almost; I've use candy wrappers, the inside of potato chip bags (degreased), and it is especially prominent in gift-wrapping and/or craft shops. Candy-making suppliers are a particularly good source. It is not too difficult to accumulate many different colors if you consume some candy and chips.

Mosaic Gems Tiles These folks care a product called BriteBak Tape, that will ease your foiling pains. It is an adhesive backed foil tape (not mylar) that is aproximately half the thickness and weight of the hardware store HVAC foil tape. It is also available in gold. I'll never go back to HVAC tape as long as they make this stuff!

Dean
Dean
How easy is the Brite Bak tape to use.
When i use the HVAC Tape,i have to use two different pieces and hope they are the same.
I need an alternative.Ill give it a shot.
Oh yeah,does it wrinkle easy and if it does can they be smoothed out easily????
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Yank,
Being about half as thick as the H-VAC tape makes it much easier to deal with, and yes, it does smooth much easier too.

Here's how I foil: Cut two pieces of tape just a bit longer than the bait, and leave them rectangular, don't shape them. Center the bait on the tape making sure that the tape will reach the center line of the lure, or the half-way point all the way around the bait. Now begins smoothing the tape onto the lure, beginning with the center of your chosen side, slowly, stretching the tape as you go to keep it smooth--try holding onto the bait with one hand, thumb on the tape where you started and fingers on the back side from you; and with your other hand, work the tape by pulling it onto the bait, holding the tape mostly by the edges that you will cut back to the center line of the side you're working.

The key to this method is to apply as much pressure as you can, stretching the tape without tearing it, and you'll get better with practice. Use a small sharp clean pair of sissors, and/or a razor sharp blade to trim the excess.

From this point, I emboss, clearcoat with something that will leave a smooth coating (lightly sanding and cleaning with alcohol if epoxy), and then paint over the coating to hide the top and bottom seams, etc. until I'm ready to clear. For me, this means painting with Createx, heat setting thoroughly, and then brushing on a coat of Dicknite's Clear. If it is one of my homeade crankbaits, after 24 hours I'll glue-in the lip, and clearcoat again when the glue dries. I'll finish by applying clear coat every 24 hors. until I'm satisfied with the thickness of the clear, usually after 4 coats on top of the paint.

Take your time with the foiling and add it to your list of skills. I used to fight it; now I enjoy it.

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Re: Adventures in Foiling

Alex,
That's the way to tackle a problem head on.
My sister-n-law is a food consultant, who will know how to get that stuff.
I'll let you know what I find out.

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Dean
Great beer commercial reference. It emboldened me to go up to the cooks and ask for the foil and the manufacturer. But when I got up to the counter, the cook couldn't hear me, so I grabbed a piece of foil, grabbed my skirt so I wouldn't trip, and ran.

Anyhow, here's a couple pics of the stuff. It comes in 8" x 10" sheets, appx. It is the same toughness and reflectivity as aluminum foil. It's folded in the middle, has diamond impressions throughout, but also some diagonal-running marks that are less desirable, and some fold marks as well, but it may serve some purpose, especially with the ingenuity and creativity that I've seen displayed on this site already.

The manufacturer is Sysco out of Houston, TX.

Hope this helps.

Alex
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Yank,
Being about half as thick as the H-VAC tape makes it much easier to deal with, and yes, it does smooth much easier too.

Here's how I foil: Cut two pieces of tape just a bit longer than the bait, and leave them rectangular, don't shape them. Center the bait on the tape making sure that the tape will reach the center line of the lure, or the half-way point all the way around the bait. Now begins smoothing the tape onto the lure, beginning with the center of your chosen side, slowly, stretching the tape as you go to keep it smooth--try holding onto the bait with one hand, thumb on the tape where you started and fingers on the back side from you; and with your other hand, work the tape by pulling it onto the bait, holding the tape mostly by the edges that you will cut back to the center line of the side you're working.

The key to this method is to apply as much pressure as you can, stretching the tape without tearing it, and you'll get better with practice. Use a small sharp clean pair of sissors, and/or a razor sharp blade to trim the excess.

From this point, I emboss, clearcoat with something that will leave a smooth coating (lightly sanding and cleaning with alcohol if epoxy), and then paint over the coating to hide the top and bottom seams, etc. until I'm ready to clear. For me, this means painting with Createx, heat setting thoroughly, and then brushing on a coat of Dicknite's Clear. If it is one of my homeade crankbaits, after 24 hours I'll glue-in the lip, and clearcoat again when the glue dries. I'll finish by applying clear coat every 24 hors. until I'm satisfied with the thickness of the clear, usually after 4 coats on top of the paint.

Take your time with the foiling and add it to your list of skills. I used to fight it; now I enjoy it.

Dean
Any place to buy this stuff retail or just mail order????
Thanks Dean.
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